IMO it's worth considering how we can bring in more talent into our industry though. Not enough that we put ourselves out of the fortunate situation of being in-demand, but enough that the lag doesn't cause a major crash if/when companies have to abandon Rails because they can't find anyone to maintain or upgrade the systems that rely on the technology. It's one of the reasons I'm so happy that the Rails community as a whole embraces some alternative and newbie-friendly approaches to community building and training. But I think we still need more...

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        Matt Allen <mailto:[email protected]>
16 February 2011 9:50 AM



I'd say that we're slap bang in the middle of lag that happens when
any new tech gets serious traction. I remember when there was a PHP
programmer lag as the big players started to embrace the language and
it became more popular.

It'll take time, but for now, embrace it :)

Matta

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        Pat Allan <mailto:[email protected]>
16 February 2011 9:46 AM


It seems there's generally a Ruby developer shortage - NYC, Chicago, London, Melbourne, Sydney... at what point does such an unbalanced employment market become a liability?

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        Warren Seen <mailto:[email protected]>
16 February 2011 9:31 AM


This is most likely a clear sign that there's a shortage of competent Ruby devs in NY as well as Chicago (see: http://nuts.redsquirrel.com/post/2680658687/chicagos-ruby-developer-crisis) - time to raise my hourly rate again!

All jokes aside, maybe it's because E3 visas are easier to deal with than H1-B visas from an employer's perspective? The E3 is exclusive to Australians, and from what I've read, only a fraction of them are taken up each year, compared to H1-B's which are oversubscribed.

Cheaper doesn't factor into it, as my understanding is that an employer will need to offer the equivalent of what a US worker would make anyway, i.e. you can't import labour at below market rate. Factor in relo costs, etc, plus the real risk that some people may pack it in and come back home, it's probably significantly more expensive than hiring locally.

(Also, as far as I'm aware, Pivotal pair ATFT or close to it, so if they hired you, they'd want to pair with you regardless of where you're from. :P)




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        Matthieu Stone <mailto:[email protected]>
12 February 2011 10:22 AM


I lived there for 7 years - great times.

Have you got your visa status sorted out (if you need one)? The conditions change a bit, just contact the UK consul & make sure you can actually work legally.

I'm still on the LRUG list & there seems to be fairly regular job postings - so send them a note, setting out a bit about you, what you've done, & what you want to do.

www.jobserve.co.uk <http://www.jobserve.co.uk> - aggregates most of the recruitment agency roles.

www.gumtree.co.uk <http://www.gumtree.co.uk> is also worth a look - you can usually pick up a html - php - destktop support contract for a few weeks to tide things over.

40 pound weekends in Spain & France - good times indeed!

rgds,
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        Jason Langenauer <mailto:[email protected]>
10 February 2011 9:04 PM


Hi all,

I'm currently toying with the idea of moving to London for a year or two. Does anyone here have any insight into how good, bad or otherwise the Ruby/Rails contracting market there is, in the wake of the GFC?

Regards

Jason Langenauer
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