Hi Chris,

Feel free to look up @kamal on twitter. He's a really nice guy and
runs the co working space I'm working at in Malaysia called Fluent
Space.

https://fluentspace.my

- SengMing Tan, @sengming

On Oct 30, 9:43 pm, chrisjacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Nathan,
>
> Thank you for the reply and the invitation to "pick your brain" (gotta
> love the RoRo community - so helpful!).
>
> Basically any words of wisdom from your experiences... any got-cha's,
> and even common sense things - like, "buy quality Coffee - keeps the
> dev's coming back for moooooore", or "plan to buy a large conference
> table - not only does it give clients the impression of grandeur, but
> with a tiny net attached it converts into a kick ass table tennis
> table for lunch time" ^_^
>
> I'll give you a bit more info about the space / vision and see what
> you think...
>
> Firstly, it's located in Coffs Harbour, NSW (actually, Boambee East, a
> suburb 10 minutes south of the city center).
>
> The property (potentially my new home if we purchase)...
> Realestate.com:http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-boambee+east-107222171
> Google 
> Maps:http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=115+Linden+Avenue,+Boambee+East,+New...
>
> The "office space" is on the ground floor. It has:
>
> Independent 
> entryhttp://images3.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/ImageF/201103...
>
> Smallish Lounge / Kitchen (sink, bench, 
> cabinets)http://images2.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/ImageI/201103...
>
> 1 good sized bed room - with window view out to open "empty land" and
> poolhttp://images2.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/ImageJ/201103...
>
> Shower & Toilet
> Aircon and Ceiling fan's
>
> Pool and Outside 
> deckhttp://images1.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/[email protected]://images1.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/ImageQ/201103...
>
> There is also a "games room" - a converted double garage with polished
> cement flooring... but thinking of turning that into a "Yoga Studio
> space" - my wife's pet project if we buy the place ;-) ... will also
> have some gym equipment in there, which could be appealing to co-
> workers.http://images4.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/107222171/ImageC/201105...
>
> Plenty of street parking. Also it's a busy/popular suburban street -
> so plenty of "free advertising" if I were to put up signage out the
> front.
>
> ... there are 2 other "home business" within 5 houses either side
> (hair salon + hair and day spa).
>
> IGA supermarket + bakery + chemist + news-agency + bottleshop within
> walking / bike ride distance.
>
> Thing's I think people might like:
> - Deep desks
> - Spare monitor to plug into
> - ADSL2+ (fastest I can get)
> - Discounted bulk "Day pass" system - 
> likehttp://www.co-worka.com.au/desk-hire.html
> - Optional early / late access
> - PC, Mac, iPhone & iPad - for device / browser testing
> - Shared book library
> - Sandwich-press, kettle, biscuits & bar fridge
> - Deck with comfy lounging chairs
> - BBQ Fridays!
> - ... I may need to "invest" in a Wii & small wall mounted tv for the
> "boardroom" (aka the "I'm f-ing bored room" ;-))
> - Whiteboard
> - Gym / laundry / shower
> - Off street bike rack
>
> The biggest perk tho - as corny as this sounds - is getting to work
> around other people... Coffs Harbour has a very segregated tech &
> design community ... which is my biggest challenge to setting this up.
>
> Thinking about "testing the waters" with a local classifieds ad; and
> count how many bites I get... I could also target the local
> University.
>
> At the end of the day I already work from home... so worse case
> senario is I end up with bunch of excess desk space... and a Nintendo
> Wii :-P
>
> Concerns:
> - Tax (could be really good and/or bad benefits here - really I just
> need to a tax agent to talk to)
> - Neighbours not liking extra cars parked on street (although there is
> empty land next to the house - so if cars park there then I don't see
> why people would care).
> - Whether I need council approval in some way - not sure if co-working
> & "hired desks" is a looppole in the residential / commercial laws...
> it' certainly not your normal "office space rental" setup.
> - Security & insurance - I don't really want anyone leaving expensive
> stuff on site, and me being liable for it.
> - Demand - "build it and they will come" is probably a bad approach -
> I should really research and network more before converting the space.
> There are a few people I know I can already talk to already. Also
> street signage, letterbox drops, and networking with local business &
> uni should be a good/cheap start - small community, so hopefully word
> of mouth will kick in. I could also look to host tech meet-up's &
> drinks - great ice breaker.
> - Pricing - finding the sweet-spot... affordability I think is a big
> factor in a regional area - particularly for people already setup in a
> home office paying no extra business rent.
> - Contracts - I want to keep things simple. Certainly no lockin's...
> but also want my arse covered.
>
> If you read even half of that then - THANK YOU -
>
> I'm quite passionate about the idea; and making a fun place to go to
> work every day.
>
> - Chris
>
> On Oct 30, 7:43 pm, Nathan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey Chris.
>
> > I've done all those things.  Ask me anything.  :)
>
> > Cheers.
>
> > On Oct 30, 5:58 pm, chrisjacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Thinking about running a co-working office space from a home I'm
> > > looking to purchase (in Coffs Harbour).
>
> > > If you've:
> > > setup an office,
> > > worked in a co-working space,
> > > or rented out some space in your house....I would love to hear about
> > > it!
>
> > > Tips / experiences / successes / failures...
>
> > > Also, question:
> > > What makes a good / bad co-working space?
>
> > > ... P.S Oh, and if you know anything about tax or legal liabilities I
> > > might hit setting this up in a residential area I'm try to investigate
> > > that now...fun ^_^
>
> > > Thanks.

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