I saw those photos and noped right out. Collaboration is almost impossible 
in a space like that.

Was there a popular management book or something recommending it? Not sure 
why they are everywhere these days.

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 6:00:02 PM UTC+11, Danial Pearce wrote:
>
> This topic came to the top of my brain queue just now after reading 
> @FredWu's post for jobs at GetBlix. In particular it was one of the photos 
> he posted, well maybe 2 of them.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/LUwGoB
> https://flic.kr/p/LMwLbp
>
> I didn't want to hijack Fred's thread, hence a whole new post. And I want 
> to preface this by saying I mean no offence to GetBlix or Fred (who I've 
> worked with in the past), since every office seems to be doing this, 
> whether the be a startup, small org or medium org. (I can't speak for large 
> org like Telstra/NAB etc as I haven't worked at any).
>
> Those 2 photos though. Does this look like an environment that entices you 
> as a developer to work a that office? It certainly doesn't for me, and I 
> wonder if I'm in some sort of minority, or people just don't speak up and 
> are happy to accept a paycheck? As mentioned, I can't speak to a better 
> solution because our office, brand new, build a year ago is extremely 
> similar. But for me, it really looks like an environment I would have an 
> extremely hard time concentrating in. A conversation 10m away would be hard 
> to not hear and get distracted by.
>
> Then we have the classic ping pong table. And situated near all the 
> workers, so of course everyone knows when someone is playing. I can't find 
> the exact quote for the life of me, but it was something along the lines of 
> "I've never once accepted a job because they had a ping-pong table".
>
> The answer most oft given is along the lines of "go find a quiet space 
> when you need to concentrate" or "get some good headphones". The problem 
> with the former is in a collaborative environment, going off to work on 
> your own is no good, and with the latter, you need to be constantly finding 
> music to play, enjoy constant music and/or actually be able to use music to 
> concentrate. I'm aware of many people that would just get distracted by the 
> music. And I'm certainly guilty of wasting more time trying to build my 
> playlist for the morning than actually coding.
>
> Anyway, some light reading for a Monday night:
>
> - http://qz.com/806583/programmers-hate-open-floor-plans/
> - http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-open-office-trap
>
> So I guess I'm posting this here rather than twitter or something, as I am 
> actually curious. What do others here in AU think about this trend? I've 
> only ever worked in "cubicles" like on Office Space, or open plan similar 
> to the above pics. Heck I've even worked in cubicles where other devs 
> thought it was ok to play through their speakers, and get into volume wars. 
> Or worse, a shared playlist environment.
>
> As it turns out, i've been more vocal about this than I previously 
> thought: 
> https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Atigris666%20open%20plan&src=typd
>

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