> Oh is Gecko == Mozilla? Oh well, can't keep them straight. As far as I'm > concerned there are only 2 browsers worth developing for, IE6 and FF > > 1.07.
Remove IE 6 and I agree, hahahaha. Actually, I hate Mozilla's box model (I know it's the w3c recommended one, but it's flawed. Width and height should include padding and borders. When I say a box is 2 feet wide, I don't mean if you subtract the box walls and the foam. /end rant). I almost want to like Opera, but after spending an hour trying to figure out why doing this doesn't work in Opera, I now am extremely leery of it: textarea.value = 'something'; textarea.style.visibility = 'hidden'; ... more code ... textarea.style.visibility = 'visible'; textarea.value = 'something else'; Whoops... the value was not changed. WTF?!! I ended up creating a new textarea and replacing the old one with it before I set the value, but only for Opera, as the other browsers all work fine. > Yea.. Stupid browser makers. Wish we could pull them all into the town > square for a good flogging. Heh. I do realize that I'm a bit hypocritical complaining about them when I could contribute to Mozilla, but our 'modern' browsers are years behind where they should be. The stuff they're just getting to should've been standard fare years ago. They spend all this time implementing neato stuff like the canvas element, which in reality is useless to the majority of site builders out there. But look, we can make Doom in javascript!!! Meanwhile, we still have to use fandangled javascript methods to do simple animations, dragging/dropping, required field checking, rounded corners, etc, etc. Those should've been implemented in the browser (or even in the standard in some cases) years ago. As much as I dislike Microsoft, I think the w3c should've picked up on their filter concept. Maybe changed the syntax or whatever, but I want css gradients, opacity, blurring, drop-shadows, etc, etc (not sure IE does all of those). I've wanted them for years, and I don't think I'm in the minority. Anyhoo, sorry if I seem whiny today; I need a good rant now and again to feel better. I must need a nap or something :) Greg _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
