Re: [RAMPART/C] Question about making the WS-SECURITY optional from call to call

[Kaushalye Kapuruge]

Senaka Fernando wrote:
Hi Kaushalye,
Does this mean no-REST with Rampart/C services??? 
What are Rampart/C service? If you mean secured services, Apache 
Ramaprt/C is only for SOAP.
That's a big issue I
guess. Why isn't it possible to make partially secure services. The whole
idea is to meet the requirement of a provider. If he can't partially
secure then he would rather drop WS-Security. This won't solve at least
some of his expectations. Thoughts??
  
What are partially secured services? A service is either secured or 
not.:) The same service cannot be allowed to treat two requests in 
different ways.  For example think about authentication. What's the 
rationale behind allowing one request to add claims and another to not? 
Why would I bother adding username tokens if the service is kind enough 
to pass without them?
Cheers,
Kau

Regards,
Senaka

  
Hi Kaushalye and Supun,

Thanks for your responses.  So I would think REST calls will also only
work if I am not configuring the service to use rampart, correct?  You
are right that I can define 2 services and leave one open for REST and
other means of security.  The customer will decide what they want based
on where they are deploying their service.

-Dave.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaushalye Kapuruge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:38 PM
To: rampart-c-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RAMPART/C] Question about making the WS-SECURITY optional
from call to call

Hi,
Having different security requirements for the same endpoint doesn't
make any sense. A service should treat all incoming messages in the same
way.
Saying that, we do not support the operational level security. The
smallest unit of security requirements is for a service. So if you need
to have different security requirements, you need to have different
services. Then again, you have to be careful exposing your business
logic. If a secured service is exposed with another then an attacker can
easily pick the latter.:) Cheers, Kau

Dave Meier wrote:
    
Hi,

I want to support WS-SECURITY on request coming in to my server, but I
      
also want clients to be able to send SOAP requests with no WS-SECURITY
      
and provide the userid/password by inserting them into the request as
regular elements.  I also want my REST calls to work without RAMPART
doing anything with them.  Is there a way to configure the server this
      
way?

So I want to support the following all with one services.xml file:

1.  SOAP WS-SECURITY requests.
2.  SOAP requests with no WS-SECURITY header.
3.  REST calls.

Thanks,

-Dave.


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