Dear Victor:
My name is Chris Gist a RR Cmdr. from Texas (Kelly's Husband). In a TV
interview the author of Harry Potter is a self-proclaimed witch. I saw her
telling her story, how she was almost destitute and somehow with no writing
skills or experience she turned out the book "Harry Potter", became rich and
famous overnight outselling any other children's books in first release.
During the time of Saul and King David that witch would have been put to
death. The Bible says we are to have nothing to do with witches or mediums
as Saul found out.
Read about Saul and the witch of Endor. Many AoG preachers believe that God
sent Samuel to deliver a message. Carefully read the message and analyze it
yourself. The devil talking through the witch said "the Philistines will
win, you will die and your sons will die." Jesus tells us "the liar comes
to kill, steel and destroy". Satan cannot tell you the future, only what he
wants it to be. The next morning Satan killed Saul destroyed Sauls's two
sons (his family lineage), and stole his land all because Saul listened to a
witch and believed the liar.
I think we should be very careful about what we read. Have you ever taken a
marker and put a line through every cuss word in the Harry Potter book? I
haven't read the book, but Harry gets drawn into the magical darkside and
learns to hate his adopted family, his aunt and his uncle (I forget the term
he uses to describe non-magical people), but the draw to the darkside in
magic is there and relying on magic instead of self-empowerment just like in
Pokemon and other cartoons that do not build morale character, but have
children believe that there is a higher power out there that they can
control.
As a Christian living in a time of grace we should not hang the author of
Harry Potter from the highest tree, but pray for her salvation, just like we
do for the other lost souls in the world.
Bro. Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Zalakos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
Hi Clint,
I'm the dunce who said that the Harry Potter books are a great read.
They are.
I've read them all. And enjoyed every word on every page. I can't wait for
the next book to come out and I will go to see the movie.
Just in case you haven't met me I'm a credentialed pastor with the
Assemblies of God in Australia, State Commander of Royal Rangers in NSW and
member of the National Ranger Committee. I was camp commander for the second
Cyber Pow Wow. Author of the booke "Leadership and the Perfect Outpost" (
http://site.fdnet.com.au/victor/rangers/contents.html
<http://site.fdnet.com.au/victor/rangers/contents.html> ). I am married with
five children, and a pastor at my local church.
Does that make my opinion better than yours - of course it doesn't.
Does that make your opinion better than mine - of course not.
It also doesn't give you permission to talk down to those who carry a
different point of view to your own, nor to resort to the base level of name
calling.
Argue your point - but don't stoop to rock throwing!
Victor.
At 07:59 PM 23/08/2001 -0500, clint grant wrote:
Stephan,
You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT read this book or condone the reading
thereof and still be in God's will, according to the Word. It says to flee
the very appearance of evil. If the Harry Potter series does not appear this
way to you, I would humbly suggest that you spend some time with your Maker.
That goes double for the dunce on here who said this is a good read. This
book, and some of the opinions in regards to it, are examples of the moral
decay that is even pervading the church. A friend of mine spoke to a woman
on a plane who told him that her pastor advised her to have an affair. Said
maybe it would give her husband a wake-up call. Jesus was tougher on sin
than anyone, yet never judged anyone. There IS a difference. The world is
not a misunderstood friend, it is your ENEMY. It HATES you. Why on earth you
people defend it so much I'll never understand.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Fischer
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
Hi,
> John, If Josh feels strongly that he should not read the Harry Potter
books
One of my brother's friends who is a professor at an AoG theological
seminary once said: 'Only by reading you will find out what is not worth
being read.'
> On another note - why is it that several on this list are determined to
> change opinions of those who feel things are ungodly?
My favourite christian band had the following song on one of their CDs:
Everybody lokk there's a new bandwagon in town
Hop on board and let the wind carry you around
Seems there's not enough to keep us busy 'till the Lord comes back
Don Quixote's got to have another windmill to attack
Another Witch Hunt looking for evil wherever we can find it
Off on a tangent, hope the Lord won't mind it
Another Witch Hunt, takin' a break from all our Gospel labor
On a crusade but we forgot our saber
There's a new way to spend all our energies
We're up in arms instead of down on our knees
Walkin' over dollars trying to find another dime
Never mind the souls 'caus we really haven't got the time
So send out the dogs and tally ho
Before we sleep tonight we got miles to go
No one is safe, no stone is left unturned
And we won't stop 'till somebody gets burned
Brothers
I don't want to judge the Harry Potter books, because I have never read
them. The problem I see is that this is the same with most people that judge
them to be ungodly. Most people I have heard talking about the dangers in
Harry Potter (yes, it is the same over here in Germany) had to admit they
knew about that from a book/from another person... This is what I would call
a 'Witch Hunt' (how matching...).
> YOU have no idea what convictions God has placed in the lives of OTHERS.
This may be right, but you will have to admit that there is some other guy
that might also be placing convictions in people's lives, for example
wanting them to start witch hunts like these.
> It is possible that Josh and John have a personal conviction about reading
> certain books (doesn't matter if the books are Harry Potter or Hardy Boys)
> so they should live by their convictions.
One can also read a book in a critical way (to know whether it is worth
being read or not (see above)).
> If a discussion on the books is warranted - great! Answer John's question
> - without judgment and discuss the books in a separate e-mail. Let's try
> to help each other before we jump on the opinion bandwagon.
I hope it was helpful and without judgement (I deleted a part I thought to
be somewhat judging), if not please forgive me...
Always prepared for Jesus.
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Stefan Fischer (Fani)
Pioneer-Commander, OP #78 Moetzingen/Germany
http://www.royal-ranger.com <http://www.royal-ranger.com/>
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