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I agree with you Scott. I grew up in Rangers and my pastor never gave the support
that was needed. A few years after I was out of rangers living on my own as an
adult. My senior commander came to me an said the pastor wants to do away with the
program because of lack of men and boys. Years later having my our kids I wanted to
find a church and a Ranger program to be able to give my children the same opportunity
that I had as a child. (I Was saved at a council fire.) I am now a commander now.
Last year my pastor was asked to speak at winter camp. I saw him build up are program
as he talked with others but He has never seen what Rangers is all about. With very
little support we struggle with the lack of leaders and get little acknowledgement
from the church except a class for the boys who are not old enough for the youth
group. That is sad because some boys and men miss out on a great opportunity to
experience Jesus in a whole new way.
Jamie
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Subject: RE: [RR] *Any new voices out there, with a passion for Royal Rangers?
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:53:45 -0500
Well, I was a RR leader for 6 years.
I had passion, I had too much passion that I couldn't step back and see that
RR was a baby sitting service. That no matter what the boy did, that the
leader was the real problem and that you heard about it.
Maybe, when the pastors in the churches will wake up and see the coffee and
realize that RR is not another notch in your churches belt of programs to be
offered, that is when you will see rangers grow
Maybe, a boys heart doesn't care where the money comes from so that he will
learn about Christ, or learn how to lead a person to Christ or learn how to
care about his fellow human being.
You see, it's not about money.
It's not about the leaders
It's not about the parents
It's not about the books, uniforms, patches, merits, campouts, etc.
It's about your pastors commitment to the boys that you lead. If he is not
committed to the Royal Ranger vision. Then you do not have a leg to stand
on.
Your pastor's commitment gives you the money, the boys, the parents, the
leaders.
When pastors stop seeing RR as a baby sitting service on Wed. nights, that
is when you will have a Royal Rangers outpost that functions as it should.
When other men are willing to be part of a Outpost council with the Pastors
blessing. It gets even better.
Like I said, I use to have a passion. That went out with the pastors lack
of passion, commitment and devotion too all of the people in the church, not
just the pet projects and the adults.
Scott Tobman
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:17 PM
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Subject: [RR] *Any new voices out there, with a passion for Royal
Rangers?
It's on yur heart-
Sit down and share it..
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