--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Some contect edited for calrity...
> 
> In a message dated Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:13:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Doc EagleDad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 
> > *I've seen this "devotion"  done in church and...
> > I object to the Leadership "ethic"  displayed.
> 
> I'm still not sure why?

Bogus is bogus..

I object because the $20 bill is legal tender.

When crunching,stomping and defaceing a document,
don't mess with US Currency in front of me. I've worked
hard in my life for less than that $20.00 and it's a shallow
play on my sence of right and wrong.

ABLE
> > > >LESSON. NO MATTER WHAT I DID TO THE MONEY,
> > > >YOU STILL WANTED IT, BECAUSE, IT DID NOT DECREASE IN
> > > >VALUE. IT WAS STILL WORTH 20 DOLLARS.
> > 
> > *OK let me un-limber my HEART and MIND..
> > 
> > ->A No.1<- wouldn't take that $20 bill if you cramed it up
> > my nose with tweezers..  *Because it shows disrespect for
> > the $20 bill and it's place in the house of God.
> > 
> > The $20 bill means.. NOTHING TO ME.
> > 
> 
> Regardless of its intrinsic value to you - it is still worth $20.  What
> "place" does it have in the house of God?
> 
> > It's value to someone who did not see the act of disrespect,
> > may remain.. But in observeing the SIN I will not tolerate
> > being manipulated into "mindset" by a CON-ARTIST!
> > 
> 
> What sin? 

When you act in a way to manipulate the outcome.. as in scheaming
to produce a given result by your actions.. That is manipulation.
a "fleshly" act that is in no way simular to the Holy Spirit moveing
on people to come to understanding. If you act in a way to "beguile"
and take pride in that talent.. it is Witchcraft.



 What disrepect?  Is it sin to crumple or step on a $20 bill? 

I would NOT do it in frount of Ranger boys or hungry Afgan refugees..
I wouldn't do  it all all, but if I did it in front of Yuppie Lexis
driveing poodle love'n pew sitters they would'nt get it..

*Mayby a HUNDRED or a THOUSAND DOLLAR BILL..


>  I really don't get where you're headed.
> 

*I'll be plain spoken.

There are people on this earth that would sell their bodies for $20.00
There are people that would take that $20.00 and give it to the devil.
The $20 bill represents power. 

Publicly.. YOU would take it, after being under the foot of a man?



> > When you stick your fingers up persons nose and drag him
> > to the table.. *That in zero way is "Leadership". *If you
> > then feed him under duress, he does not "owe you a tahnk-you"
> > because you have robbed him of his will.
> > 
> > *This is how many treat Cattle, Dogs and Horses...
> > 
> > The tools may be a whip.. or a BRIBE!
> > 
> But the point wasn't about being forced to take the $20 - it was about
> the value of the $20 not changing.

The value changed for Me amigo..My "price" must be higher<G>


  Whether it's in your nose, on the
> ground or in my wallet it's still $20.  (Not in my wallet for long
> though :>)   )
> 
> > 
> > > >>> >
> > > >WE FEEL THAT WE ARE WORTHLESS, BUT, NO MATTER WHAT
> > > >HAS HAPPENED OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN, YOU WILL NEVER
> > > >LOSE YOUR VALUE, DIRTY OR CLEAN, CRUMPLED OR FINELY CREASED, YOU
> ARE
> > > >STILL PRICELESS TO THOSE WHO LOVE YOU.
> > 
> > 
> > Bogus thinking..
> > 
> > When Life hands us a lemon.. we can hurl it back as a missle,
> > or we can make Lemonaide. We may choose in the hour of our misery,
> > to rise up and show some spine! We *MAY be valued in our worth
> > to others, but "others" often can withold LOVE and RESPECT as
> > wepons to control and manipulate the outcome *THEY desire..
> > 
> 
> I agree that we don't have to feel worthless - and we should NEVER feel
> worthless but they never loved in the first place if they manipulated
> you or withheld love.  

Nope.. sometimes people change even from what their heart tells 
is true one day  to something else.  Fathers leave kids they love
for no good reason, later in life, it's all washed out by time.


True love can't be "withheld".  Those who truly
> love you will still value you - just as the $20 bill still holds its
> value.

Wait.. the $20 bills true 'value is in flux.

*I can prove it.
At one time there was something called a $20 gold piece.
It had a weight of 1oz. and was 'worth $20.00 in trade.

> 
> > Example-
> > 
> > Commander Dad wants his boy to earn the GMA..
> > Commander Dad sacrifices and works to build the Outpost that
> > will award his son the award.
> > 
> > Along the way, the son "get's" that Cdr.Dad wants the GMA
> > more than he does. *If the son says so.. the Cdr.Dad will
> > feel snubed.  It's likely a rift may form over the issue of
> > the "worth" of the GMA.
> > 
> > Therefore a GMA is "WORTH" more when awarded to someone who
> > desired it than to the one who had it "thrown" at him...
> > In the worst case.. Cdr.Dad know he "gundecked the award" and
> > it builds disrespect for the son by the father.
> > 
> > Wierd huh..
> 
> Yes it is - but I don't see what that has to do with the speakers
> contention that our value remains the same even during the low times in
> our lives.  And that those who truly love us will continue to do so,
> regardless of out life situation.


That's just plain false.

*People are going to do whatever their "Love" demands them to do.It isn't
attached to "worth"  Love.. unlike a $20 bill is priceless.

Doc


> 
> Michael


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of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
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