Classic example of James 3:11-12. I am sure that the Pastor agrees with you. Rest in peace. ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RR] Patrol Series Part 2 sub-study REPLY I kind of think that one trip to the altar for "THE NEW KID" makes all the "suffering" worth it - but hey, that's just my opinion - but I've always thought the creed was "to reach, teach amd keep boys for Christ" - not to reach, teach, and keep boys for the patrol method. Maybe I was wrong for the last 30 years though.
Michael
In a message dated Wed, 8 May 2002 5:12:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jeff & Ellrena Ortner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>TAG-A-LONG RANGER BOY
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>RANGER-NET News for THE ROYAL RANGER OUTPOST LEADERSHIP
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>In This Issue: What to do with the "NEW KID
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>YES, IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO CAMPING
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>O.K., you are going camping again and everything is loaded up and ready to go. Then sure enough someone wants to bring a friend along or that problem boy gets invited to the compute.
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>You are getting tired of these "NEW KID" show-ups and want a chance to work with a good Patrol system. Now the problem starts up again with leadership and authority problems because the "NEW KID" doesn't want to follow your Patrol Leader and neither does he want to stand at attention or walk with your group. Does this sound familiar to you?
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>As a Ranger leader this is a problem from the start and we need some control in this area.
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>May I suggest that you plan your campouts as a Ranger (Member) activity only. To many boys want to show up at the local campout and want the icing off the cake , but don't want to work for it either. They are there for the free ride and love to show up "JUST FOR THE ACTIVITIES."
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>Make your campouts a part of achievements and a privilege to get to go. Never let those "NEW KIDS" control your Outpost or Patrols. They will if they get the chance.
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>They are the ones that usually start to complain too. About food, who they are sleeping with, why we can't do this or go do that. Most often they are also the ones that get in trouble, because they don't understand camp rules towards other peoples stuff. They find money in a tent and just assume it is now theirs. They are the ones that bring the extra snacks, cokes, a knife, or hatchet, wear the rag on the head , plus don't have a uniform.
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>They no they don't belong and try to get others to see life their way. They gripe about the "BOY" leadership and buck him on every turn too. This brings attention and gratification to him as a someone special. He is special all right, real special.
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>But to the Outpost and to the Patrol Method they are suffering by this time.
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>. I know this, not any other organizations lets complete strangers tag-a long.
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>GET THE PICTURE???
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>WHAT DO YOU DO WITH SHOW-UP INVITES AT THE LOCAL CAMPOUTS.
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>This is what we did and maybe it can work with you.
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>Last year we made provisions for our main POWWOW campout to include all boys that wanted to come and be apart of this great event. We realized that we were going to suffer and that we wasn't going to win any prizes from a ragtag looking bunch of boys. That year we realized that we had to look at this compute as a ministry and knew that teamwork, the patrol system,
nd the "BEST" camp award was going to take a back seat. We took 15 that year and 8 of them got saved. We retained only 7 of the original ragtag patrol, but our Outpost has now grown to 24 complete with uniforms and a Royal Ranger cabin at the church.
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>So now lets look at what needs to be done this year.
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>I suggest either you make the choice to go as a Patrol unit or go as a ragtag group again.
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>1. It is either a ministry to others with problems and your Outpost suffer. or
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>2. A true Ranger Outpost gathering with pride achievements fun, and come home as a success.
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>So what do you do?
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>We need to look at the whole picture here and ask some very tough questions about what needs to be done. Either leave the "NEW KID" home or take him with you and suffer.
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>I think that after looking at every area the best suggestion is; why have Royal Rangers at all, if you let anybody go to camp who wants to go. Do you realize that your whole push (effort) to be in Rangers is compromised when you let just anyone go with you. It is also possible that you may lose some great boys after the campout if you let the tag-a-longs go too. If you want a ministry for boys and don't want teamwork and control over your Outpost, then just go every year with the rag-tag group.
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>I'm not saying it is bad that you do that and don't get mad about our program as a ministry, because it is a ministry. Plus we need every opportunity to get a boy saved. But why have the effort to teamwork, boy leadership, and the Patrol system if you're not going to do the work it at the Ranger activities?
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>I said all this to make you think about your whole purpose in Rangers.
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>~~I HOPE YOUR LISTENING NOW!!~~
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>OK HERE IS WHAT COULD WORK
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>1. Make sure your boys understand that "THIS' campout is for you only, the "Rangers."
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>Tell them this weeks early, before you go. So that your visitor "NEW KID" doesn't show up the day of the campout. Let your visitors understand that to enter this camp out you got to be in Rangers. For some period of time, not joining up at the last week's meeting.
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>2. Plan another campout, activities, or some other fun time to be a outreach to invite more boys. Allowing tag-a-longs to everything can be a discouragement to your regular boys.
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>3. You got to have something (very special) for your Ranger Boys that they can brag about it to others as an attraction to be apart of the Outpost team. Boys need to feel that they are apart of a elite group that is different from the normal crowd.
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>4. The Pow-Wow, make the effort of every year to be only Rangers or Non Ranger event for your group. If you prefer. It's your choice.
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>5. If you do take the "NEW KID" make sure he knows the ground rules "clearly" and that if he bucks the system, either sent home or no more campout within the Ranger Outpost system.
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>6. It matters also with the personality of the kid, if you know he is a trouble maker and has caused problems before. This campout sure isn't going to cure him. To him it is a reward.
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>I say were is your goals and what are you trying to accomplish within the Outpost program?
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>Is it just to get them saved, or is it a continuing program to make boys become the best they can be for Christ, the church, and the local community? This is one tough question and I see both working within the Ranger program. A Ministry, a Outreach, Program, and a professional Christian boys Organization. You make the choice here on how it works for boys.
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>I believe there is a balance to it all and you need to find it for the good of the boy's and the whole Outpost program benefits.
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>God Bless from
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>Chaplain Jeff Ortner
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>P.S.>> I'm sure this will bring up more questions about this subject so, "LETS ROLL!"
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