--- Guenter Pflaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With all due respect for personal opinions but we will have to be 
> consequent then in other areas too if girls belong in Missionettes.
> What about woman preachers ?
> 

Gunter-

"They" would say the issuse isn't about justice or fairness
but about the ability to control the content and membership
in traditional male only ways..

We know the truth, that a duel program is economical and
use the best talents from all who wish to be considered Rangers.

"They" would say that RR is about being a ministry, except it
must conform to oversight by a AoG church and not a community
charter.. then it get's pitched out the back door as trash..

Originaly, RR was to be under lay leadership seperate from
the Church board thru the use of the OP council...

That's gone...

What fired my "bisket" was that someone who lives in Springfield
Mo. thinks he's standing in the center of the world!

Again. WE know the truth.. It aint you that's the center of the world
or me.. that's the center of the world-

God made the *sparrow the center of the world!



> The fact is that if you have never looked into the bright face of a 
> Ranger girl that proudly shows you the saw horse she build with lashings

Yah..  USA Rangers "mouth" woodcraft and have no idea the sport
Euro-Rangers have with some twine and poles<G> I saw pictures of
some of the constructions, and young Ranger girl faces and melted
with love and admiration to the open hearted ethic, that promotes
that scouting kind of thing.

It wasn't "Just" an alturnitive to US Royal Rangers..

IT WAS BETTER-!


> 
> only you will quickly realize where that girl belongs.
> Of course there are some that are quite happy crocheting things for 
> missionary purposes.
> But there are some girls that know how to tame a mustang or to build a 
> 20ft tower .
> And we have lots of them here in Kraut-Land.

*Sign me up.. Out on the WEST COAST a german or Aussie style
Outpost would be prefered!

=-A->

> And we thank God for the privilege to have them among us Rangers.
> 
> Come to Eurocamp 2003 in Finland and you will see for yourself !
> 
> Having my asbestos suit tightly wrapped around my shoulders
> I greet you all with friendly greetings
> 
> Guenter (Pilgrim)
> 
> 
> 
> This Lil'light'r Mine schrieb:
> 
> >Bro.Carpetdirect..
> >
> >With all due respect..  on what authority do you
> >bind the future direction of Royal Rangers? 
> >
> >Bro.Gunter and many
> >others are not insluting your entrenched position, but reflecting
> >their own positive, current real experiances.
> >
> >Is there a secret agenda to this "current" gender non-policy?
> >
> >Also, what is with, the  "word picture" of a DEAD HORSE?
> >
> >At one time a Dead Horse was a problem..a BIG problem.
> >
> >Today it can be easily picked up and moved by front loader
> >and trucked anywhere to be turned into Dog Food ect.
> >
> >*I think strongly, the issue is more a "Stupid Mule" matter-
> >
> >where the Mule fell in a well so deep that you judge it a lost
> >cause.. and would rather throw dirt on his back than pull him out<G>
> >
> >You would rather lose the "well" than risk the effort to work things
> >out-
> >
> >Like the ignorant farmer wanting to bury the "problem"..
> >the "Mule" shakes off the dirt, takes a step up and eventualy
> >frees himself<G>
> >
> >Let the Dead horses buck!
> >=-A->
> >
> >
> >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Gunther 
> >>      In my opinion , Girls belong in Missionettes NOT RANGERS lets
> not
> >>keep 
> >>beatin this dead horse it ain't gonna run
> >>                                            Firm but fair
> >>                                               Rob Helfer
> >>                                               Outpost 6
> >>                                               Central A/G
> >>                                               
> >>--
> >>carpetdirect@mchsi
> >>For carpet tile  hardwood shipped
> >>anywhere in the country
> >>call 417 844-5723
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Maybe to slowly make the US-RR open for girls.
> >>>
> >>>G�nter
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>All,
> >>>>Why are we not under men's ministry any more? I herd the we be under
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>the 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>youth ministry now.  I dont under stand it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Later
> >>>>Wayne
> >>>>Outpost 62 
> >>>>Collinsville First Assembly of  God
> >>>>_______
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> 
> 
> 


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*High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership.
--------------********+********--------------------
Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
and both in the .....cause!

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