Frank “Big Dawg” Schaeffer wrote: “I think we might want to check the ranger code does it not to respect our leaders and those in authority. This also means that proper respect for ones own Country and its heritage”
Duane “Doc” Wheeler wrote: “You are a Ranger because you pledge to "do yur best" follow the Ranger Code. You might be a *Liberal.. you might be a *Conservitive.. You can be a Man, Woman, a boy (common) or even a girl ALL ARE Rangers..” WARNING: PLEASE READ COMPLETELLY BEFORE RESPONDING!!!! Lets take a look at the Royal Ranger Pledge: “With God’s help, I will do my best to serve God, my church, and my fellowman; to live by the Ranger Code; to make the Golden Rule my daily rule” First of all, as you can plainly read, the pledge doesn’t say anything about COUNTRY that would be the Boy Scouts pledge, which goes like this: “On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my COUNTRY and obey the Scout Law: To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.” The pledge does say FELLOWMAN, which specifies that we are to serve other people (human beings, homo sapiens, etc.) but has nothing to do with patriotism. Now lets look at the two parts of the Ranger Code that you guys are probable talking about: “LOYAL: He is faithful to his church, family, outpost, and friends.” “OBEDIENT: He obeys his parents, leaders, and those in authority.” Well both the LOYAL and OBEDIENT section do not mention the word COUNTRY or have anything to do with patriotism. Let quickly go back to the Boy Scouts: “LOYAL: A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.” “OBEDIENT: A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.” Now the Scout law DOES use the word COUNTRY and NATION. What both the Ranger and Scout OBEDIENT section do address is “obedience to those in authority” which is Biblically based. HOWEVER the issue I’ve been trying to address is PATRIOTISM NOT OBEDIENCE. For example, I hate the way things have been going in this country lately, ESPECIALLY because I know it is only going to get worse which is why I have no patriotism or pride in being American anymore. Patriotism (much like being a Christian) comes from the HEART it is a genuine love (which many of you have for our nation). YOU CAN’T FORCE SOMEONE TO LOVE A NATION/COUNTRY JUST LIKE YOU CAN’T FORCE SOMEONE TO ACCEPT CHRIST INTO THIER HEARTS!!! HOWEVER as much anger and sadness that I have for what’s going on in this country, I’m not going to start a revolution and start a “crusades” here in this country…why? Because I respect the laws of this country even if they are being used by the far left to destroy the Judao-Christian heritage that this country was founded on. This is why I prefer the Boy Scout’s take on obedience to ones country. I am OBEDIENT to the laws of this country and that is what “being obedient to those in authority” is all about and NOT patriotism. So being a Royal Ranger DOES NOT mean being PATRIOTIC just OBEDIENT and that is why I shouldn’t be forced to wear the US Flag patch. -----Original Message----- From: Ace Numer- Uno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RR] he US Flag patch: Blind Patriotism versus Christian common sense Glad you found a forum like Rangernet to express yurself<G> As to the wear'n/not wear'n of a Flag patch ...consider this: You are a Ranger because you pledge to"do yur best" follow the Ranger Code. You might be a *Liberal.. you might be a *Conservitive.. You can be a Man,Woman, a boy (common) or even a girl ALL ARE Rangers.. D.Wheeler A#1 FCF 'July'66 "I wear my pink pajamas in the winter!" --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been trying to restrain myself but because of recent events in our > country and comments by other Royal Ranger Commanders I can no longer > hold this back: > > I'm going to discuss two kinds of Christians views regarding the > American Flag patch. The first view is what I see many Christians > having, and that is "when I look at the American flag I see how the > United States USED to be and how it SHOULD be." Then there is the other > Christian view: "When I see the American flag patch I see how the United > states IS and how it WILL be." The latter in my opinion is that of a > realist while the privious is that of an idealist. Let's face the > reality according to the BIBLE, the United States is getting more and > more morally corrupt not to mention anti-Christian (just look at the > news and compare it to the last 10 to 20 years) and is only going to get > worse until Jesus returns and when that day comes there will be no > United States of America instead there will be a one world government > ruled by Jesus Christ. So we can either countinue to live in the past > and talk about what ifs for the rest of our lives or we can except the > fact that the United States of America will eventually become part of > the Antichrist's one world government. > > It is because of this that I am against the MANDATORY wearing of an > American flag on my uniform. I understand that many rangers perfer to > stay in their "comfort zone" but I'm not one of them so why should I > have to be forced to wear the American flag. Why couldn't the national > office have made the flag patch OPTIONAL like the Boy Scouts of America? > I look forward to the future, to a world ruled by Christ which is why I > tried to submit a proposed Christian flag patch (which was REJECTED by > the way). I know you guys are probably going to flame me and say I'm a > commie or a dirty hippie or something like that but I'm going by the > Word of God here not wishful thinking. > > _______ > > > List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: > http://eBible.org/rangernet/faq.htm > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://eBible.org/subscribe.htm ===== *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. --------------********+********-------------------- Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, and both in the .....cause! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! 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