When this came up a couple of weeks ago I started to put my two cents in but 
because of a busy week it past by.  But since it came around again I think I 
will throw this in.  Our church has done busing a few times.  For the most 
part it worked great and I hope to see it start up again.  But there must be 
some guidelines that the drivers must go by in order for the Ranger program 
to function.  
1.  Start by only bringing a few at a time to not overwork the commanders.  
The first night the van brought boys I was leading the Pioneer group by 
myself And in one week I went from about 8 boys to almost 20.  I threw my 
meeting plan out the door and just tried to get by that night.  Many weeks of 
behavior problems followed. Most of the boys were considered to fit the urban 
Rangers program and not traditional Rangers.  Which brings me to the next 
point.
2.  Consider having an Urban Ranger meeting another night if the boys are 
from urban areas. You can teach them where they are and work to get them 
moved to the regular Rangers as soon as possible.  Many of the boys are not 
coming to do Royal Rangers.  We have a gym (not always a blessing) and we 
found out that a lot of the boys only came to play basketball, before the 
meeting and after.  In my class I had boys admit that they only came to play. 
 When we stopped the basketball many of the boys stopped coming.  In our LTC 
we were taught to not use traditional sports for recreation.  But in the 
Urban Ranger program it does recommend that, So you can have problems by 
mixing two different ministries.
3.  The drivers must not fill the van with different boys each week.  Say 
they bring 14 boys this week.  This is the seating capacity.  You get 6 new 
boys in Pioneers.  You start helping them get started.  You get them books, 
uniform etc.  One or two boys miss for a week and the driver fills his seat 
for just that week.  Well, yes you can tell the new boys about Christ that 
one time which is good, but what if he wants to come back.  If you can't 
arrange for transportation for him that boy will be let down.

In regard to what DR Dobson said I also heard him say once that a teacher 
required a parent to come and sit with their child during classes one day 
because that child had been acting up.  I believe this was a middle school.  
The boy never acted up again.  Rather than sending a boy to his parents we 
could ask the parents to attend a couple of meetings to make sure their son 
behaves. If I was the misbehaving boy I don't think I would want my momma to 
have to sit with me.

                                                James Styles, Sr Commander
                                                Outpost 45, Huntsville, Al
in a message dated 10/27/99 5:20:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I heard this on one of Dr. Dobsons programs of Focus on the Family and I
>  modified it to fit Rangers.
>  
>  The punishment is to take them out of the room away from their buddies. 
>  The next best place is a place where they will hear God's word being
>  preached.   Either way you look at this as punishment or a better
>  alternative the result is the same.  It will make them stop and think
>  about what they are doing and decide for themselves if they would rather
>  be in with their friends in Rangers or in Church Service.
>  
>  If you follow the Ranger Plan for a successful meeting you are right
>  there will be little cause to disipline.
>  However, I have been in RR meetings where no matter what you did you
>  couldn't conduct anything due to a few disrupters.  
>  
>  1. Bring a snack and tell all they will recieve this snack at the end of
>  the meeting unless they get their name up on the board.  Then tell them
>  if they get 2 check marks next to their name then they will be moved from
>  the outpost into the church service.   If someone is acting up don't call
>  them out just write their name up on the board, if they continue on with
>  the disruptions put a check mark next to it and carry on.  
>  
>  On Dobsons program the teachers, sunday school teachers said rarely do
>  you have anyone go past 1 check mark.  
>  
>  Don't let one or two boys distrupting stop the rest of the outpost from
>  learning about Rangers and Jesus.
>  
>  This works.
>  
>  Mark Jones
>  
>  On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:23:10 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  > i agree  with   some  sort  of guide lines  and reward  system or  
>  > punishment 
>  >  system  might  work. However  i  do not   agree with  telling  them 
>  >  they 
>  > will have to sit  in service.If  they are  bussed in  they  should  
>  > never  
>  > get the idea  that it is  a punishment  to sit in church. This  is  
>  > the  
>  > opposite  of  what  rangers is really about.We are to  reach teach  
>  > and  keep 
>  >  boys for  jesus  Christ  and  wnat  to  encouraage  them to want  
>  > ot be in 
>  > church.
>  >      Make  sure  you are making the  program exciting  so thye  will 
>  > want  to 
>  > be there. instead of  service  maybe   you  could  have  a  time out 
>  >  room 
>  > monitered by a willing  gentleman from the  council .
>  >                                                          Harry Smith
>  >                                                      Sr Cmdr OP250
>  >                                                         Hudson NY
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