Sorry; but all it shows is that we are individuals, warts and all. And that
God loves us anyway.
EVERY LITTLE BIT OF ADVERSITY IS NOT OF THE DEVIL, DON'T GIVE HIM MORE
CREDIT THAN HE IS DUE.
How do we expand our minds or broaden our horizons without discussion.
Based on what you have stated, there is no need for any of Pauls' epistles,
so discard them or ignore them. But, please don't tell me there is no need
to state my (our) beliefs (theology). Although, there is no reason, real or
imagined, to get angry when someone states their ideas/beliefs. God has me
where He has me. My walk with Him is beyond the walk of some, behind that
of others and the same as whoever is left (mostly those who, like me, are
slow learners). One of the ways to learn, and shown to be one of the best
methods, is oration, to verbalize and then listen. From preachers to
teachers to parents to, yes, congressmen/women. We learn by having
discussions, by stating what we "think" we know. I may disagree with
everything someone here says, but that does not mean I have not learned from
them. I either add to what I already know or I reinforce what I know (by
agreeing or disagreeing with what has been said).
BUT DO NOT STOP ME FROM LEARNING AND THEREBY GROWING.
I will not spend the rest of my life hibernating, isolated from the rest of
the world.
As my walk with Christ grows by discussing my theology with Him (thru
prayer, bible study, listening to Him), so does my walk with my fellow
Commanders grow by discussing theology with them. rangernet is a discussion
medium. If not here, then where?
PLEASE SPARE ME THE "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" MENTALITY.
I do not believe in "us four and no more" or in being a pew warmer. I
discuss/debate, some might say argue, with as many different sources as
possible. That way I can be sure that what I believe is what I believe.
Without adversity how do you know that what you stand for is what you are
willing to die for. If my theology cannot stand up to assault, I might as
well be a cult-member or an Atheist or a marshmallow or some such other.
Christ bled for every one of us and He was without sin. He knew what He
believed. He discussed it daily in the temple and elsewhere (has rangernet
been around THAT long).
OH, YEAH, HE WOULDN'TVE BEEN WELCOME, HE'S ALWAYS STATING HIS THEOLOGY.
How much less can I expect of myself? I, for my sinful nature, DESERVE to
die on the cross, He did not deserve the cross, but died there WILLINGLY.
I MUST take up my cross DAILY and follow Him.
'Nuf said, sorry for the ruffled feathers. No, I'm not. I will not back
down in my walk with Christ, I must always seek to grow in Him (and, yes, my
walk is my theology).
RangerTP(or RangerWigWam to some)@bigfoot.com ~>8-P
"A stiff-necked, gain-saying, bond-servant of Christ"
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] Baptism
>Dear Scott:
>Your so right on that one.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Well:
>>
>> I guess I can't say anything without it turning into a mess. People we
are
>> debating theological idea's. Are you going to let the devil continue to
>> have fun? My goodness!! I am getting so tired of having a difference of
>> opinion become major points.
>>
>> Here is a major point.
>>
>> JESUS DIES ON THE CROSS TO SAVE THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW HIM SO THAT THEY
>> WOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER AN ETERNAL HELL. THE FREE GIFT IS JESUS!!
>>
>> Enough said..
>>
>> Lets go back to playing Royal Rangers.
>>
>> Scott Tobman
>> Indiana #22
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 2:45 AM
>> > To: Soaring Golden Eagle
>> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: [RR] KJV? Was: Baptism ?
>> >
>> > dear Soaring Golden Eagle:
>> > Amen to that brother. I rmember a gretting card that said "there is a
>> > destiny that makes us brothers". I know thats not scriptural but all
born
>> > again beleivers that profess the name Jesus Christ on their lips are
>> > brothers (or sisters) no matter what theirdenomination or doctrine that
it
>> > being the doctrine of Christ. I chose Assemblies because the church I
go
>> > to I feel loved and sense the presence of the Holy Spirit. Whats nice
>> > about it is I only have to walk a few hundred yards to get there. I
read
>> > the KJV and modern versions to betteer understand the content of the
>> > scripture. What throws my Buckaroos off is when I quote scripture from
>> > memory in Kings English. I am glad that God has blessed me with the
>> > ability to read Kings English and understand it.
>> > Randall A. Hermanson OP#1
>> >
>> > Soaring Golden Eagle wrote:
>> >
>> > Brother Paul, I appreciate most of your comments on RangerNet. It
>> > seems
>> > that we may not be exactly on the same page on some things,
though.
>> >
>> > At 08:49 PM 1/30/99 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gallina)
wrote:
>> >
>> > > We speak English. The King James is the inerrant inspired
>> > infallible
>> > >word of God for English speaking people.
>> >
>> > I believe that the Holy Bible, as inspired by the Holy Spirit and
>> > written
>> > in its original languages (Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Chaldee), is
>> > inerrant
>> > and infallible.
>> >
>> > I believe that God has throughout history used imperfect vessels
to
>> > record,
>> > copy, translate, and preserve His Word. Even a donkey can
prophesy
>> > correctly. Prophesying is no guarantee of salvation, either
(search
>> > the
>> > Scriptures yourself and see). The manuscripts of the Holy Bible
that
>> > we
>> > have available to us differ in details due to scribal copying
>> > mistakes.
>> > This may be unsettling to many, but it is undeniable.
Fortunately,
>> > these
>> > transcription errors are generally easily corrected by comparing
>> > different
>> > manuscripts and considering the context. Scholars today tend to
hold
>> > to one
>> > of three different views on what the text of the New Testament in
>> > its
>> > original Greek form was. The good news about these three views is
>> > that they
>> > are VERY close together, and ALL AGREE on the basis of our
salvation
>> >
>> > through Jesus Christ and His shed blood. Indeed, the
insignificant
>> > nature
>> > of these variations actually serve to confirm the reliability of
the
>> >
>> > transcription of Scripture through time, and show much greater
>> > reliability
>> > than other works of literature.
>> >
>> > The KJV is a generally trustworthy and important translation
which
>> > has
>> > great historical value, but I believe the translators "missed it"
in
>> > a few
>> > places. Actually, the original publication of the KJV in 1611 was
>> > riddled
>> > with errors and was edited in a manner that would be considered
>> > sloppy by
>> > current publishing standards. There was one infamous early
edition
>> > that was
>> > called "The Adulterer's Bible" by some, because a typo apparently
>> > left out
>> > a "not" in the 10 Commandments. Oops. Later editions of the KJV
were
>> > better.
>> >
>> > Although there were some who objected to the KJV when it was
first
>> > released
>> > because it was in contemporary common English of that time
(although
>> > a
>> > little archaic in some of its language), and because it was new,
it
>> > eventually became widely used, accepted, and trusted.
>> >
>> > A lot has happened to the English language in the four centuries
>> > since work
>> > began on the KJV. Spellings changed. Rules of grammar changed,
not
>> > only in
>> > word endings, but in usage and word order. Some words changed so
>> > drastically in meaning as to mean the opposite of what they
started
>> > out
>> > meaning. The English of the KJV is definitely not the same
dialect
>> > as any
>> > living dialect of English used on the Earth today, except for a
few
>> > isolated uses in church and perhaps among some Amish people.
English
>> > is
>> > only understood by about 10% of the Earth's population. (Mandarin
is
>> > the
>> > most widely understood language, and there are over 6500
languages
>> > spoken
>> > today). Of the people who understand English today, most of them
>> > would have
>> > great difficulty understanding KJV English. Thank God for the
many
>> > good
>> > modern English translations that we have! What concerns me is
that
>> > there
>> > are so many who have no Bible in their language, yet.
>> >
>> > > The Greek Orthodox ( not real
>> > >familiar with it ) is worthless for us as would a Russian or
Latin
>> > Bible
>> > >be.
>> >
>> > That is why it is so important that we continue supporting those
who
>> >
>> > translate the Holy Bible into other languages, so that those who
are
>> > to be
>> > saved may hear the Gospel in their own language.
>> >
>> > > The Catholic Bible is particularly distasteful to
>> > Evangelicalism as it
>> > >contains several spurious books ( Tolbit, Bel and the Dragon et.
>> > al. )
>> > >from which many of the heresies of Roman Catholicism come.
>> >
>> > I used to think that, but the Holy Spirit corrected me.
>> >
>> > Actually, the Apocrypha is not the hotbed of heresy you think.
>> > Indeed, it
>> > is helpful in understanding the 66 books of the Old and New
>> > Testaments. I
>> > would rank the Apocrypha as recommended reading - along side
>> > contemporary
>> > Christian books. I may not consider them as inspired in the same
way
>> > as the
>> > 66 books of the Old and New Testaments, but they are worth
reading
>> > and
>> > preserving. I have even heard some rather respected Evangelical
>> > pastors
>> > quote from a part of the Apocrypha on occasion in the process of
>> > explaining
>> > some history that helped set the background for whatever they
were
>> > teaching on.
>> >
>> > > Plus if you
>> > >disagree with any of these teachings from Rome you are cursed
and
>> > on the
>> > >way to Hell. I didn't say that the Pope ( who speaks in the
place
>> > of God
>> > >) did.
>> >
>> > Some died-in-the-wool AG Pentecostals are going to be surprised
>> > (pleasantly, I hope) when they get to Heaven to find Roman
Catholics
>> > there.
>> > I'm sure the surprise may be mutual. The Bible never preaches
>> > anywhere that
>> > you have to agree with all of a certain set of church doctrines
(be
>> > they
>> > Roman Catholic catechism or the 17 truths of the Assemblies of
God)
>> > to be
>> > saved. No, all you have to do is confess with your mouth that
Jesus
>> > is Lord
>> > and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and
you
>> > will
>> > be saved. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be
saved.
>> > Now, I
>> > do believe that sound doctrine is important, but your salvation
>> > doesn't
>> > rest on mental assent to 100% correct teaching or on your
favorite
>> > Bible
>> > translation.
>> >
>> > I realize that there are a few people who consider the KJV the
only
>> > valid
>> > English Bible. I encourage them to get the KJV Bible out, read it
>> > regularly, and heed what it says. As for me and my household, we
>> > will take
>> > advantage of the NKJV, NIV, and other great modern translations.
I
>> > also
>> > read out of my Greek and Hebrew Bibles.
>> >
>> > ___
>> >
>> > Michael Paul Johnson aka Soaring Golden Eagle
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>> >
>> > <http://eBible.org/mpj> Rocky Mountain Outpost 207 New Creation
>> > Church
>> > Jesus Christ is Lord! If Jesus came back today, would you be
READY?
>> >
>> >
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