Do you think that a class on "Youth Protection" as in always having a 2 deep
leadership when "counciling a boy" could be substituted for NTC Sr.Guide
throwing a tizzy-fit?
*It seems the time could be made for that.. as well as
direct instruction on implementing the patrol method by cutting back of the
*negitive para-military training technique. We need to do that anyway, if we
expand the program to allow all Commanders of Ranger's to attend National
Training.
Youth protection is a critical issue and is deeper than filling out a
children's worker form.
It requires us to be "who we are" and no more... Commander may observe abuse
but should refer the situation on to real-time authorities. *Correction of a
child-
as well as punitive action, could result in action by parents or outside
authorities-
who are or act as the legal guardians of minors.
This should not scare us or dampen our *Ministry- but should WISE US to our
roles as Adult leaders of Royal Rangers... We have tools in our Boy leaders,
that must act as our agents, and our extended officers to maintain order and
decorum. *They must have clear limits and we are responsible to make it known
that Royal Rangers is a *safe haven of rest!
These concerns are now expressed in up-dated RR Leader handbooks and
LTC training... And NTC could do much to instill this positive attitude...
*play hard- be fair and act safe!
In my opinion all we face here is a re-write of the "script" by our National
Training Co-ordinator Rick Dorstal. NTC is their property.
Soaring Golden Eagle wrote:
> At 15:34 3/20/2000 -0800, Thompson wrote:
> >...
> > I read that some disagree with some of the teaching methods. I was
> >given one particular lesson that could have only been driven home in the
> >manner it was presented. They could have given me the facts but NOT THE
> >FEELING! and that feeling represented how a boy feels when he is
> >treated in the same manner.
>
> So you believe that it is important for someone actually be mistreated and
> feel the mistreatment to learn not to mistreat someone? Or is it just
> "better" that way? May God help the boy you try to teach the Ten
> Commandments with this attitude!
>
> I won't argue that many people strongly believe that the revulsion
> instilled in a man for petty mistreatment by doing to them before they do
> or as they did to boys is effective. It does seem to help some people to
> wake up to the fact that it feels bad when they didn't think it did. I also
> grant that the intended message, that we shouldn't demean, belittle, yell
> at, or verbally abuse boys, is a good message. The message certainly has a
> big emotional impact on some people. Along with that, there are a lot of
> GOOD things that are done and taught (even with good methods) at NTC. I
> grant you these things.
>
> Now about the teaching methods: you are right when you say that some
> disagree with them. I believe that Jesus Christ Himself is one of them. One
> of the things that made Jesus most angry, besides turning a house of prayer
> into a noisy marketplace, was hypocrisy: especially RELIGIOUS hypocrisy.
> Hypocrisy is saying one thing, and doing another. For example, taking
> things from widows and orphans and misusing positions of authority, then
> standing on a street corner and praying loudly just to look "holy" to men
> really angered (and angers) Jesus Christ. Straining unclean gnats out of
> their soup to observe the law about food better than anyone else, but then
> harboring murder and adultery in their hearts, all the while believing that
> they were better than others, hypocrites really offended Jesus and drew
> criticism from them. Those religious folks who did what sounded good to
> men, while hiding shameful acts, really drew sharp rebukes from the Son of
> God. Jesus was kind and forgiving to the sinners who knew and admitted that
> they were sinners, and who repented. Those who repented drew no sharp
> criticism from Jesus, but encouragement and forgiveness.
>
> I ask you: how can you tell someone not to abuse someone, then abuse them
> just to emphasize your point, without being a hypocrite? I personally don't
> think it can be done.
>
> Jesus Christ is our example, and without a doubt, the greatest teacher
> possible in human form. We have a great deal recorded about what He taught,
> and what He did. No place is there any record in the Bible of Jesus doing
> any such "teaching of a lesson" as the NTC-style humiliation of people to
> "show them what it feels like" so that they won't do it to others. Never.
> For some observations on how Jesus actually taught, and still teaches,
> along with Scripture to back it up, please see
> <http://rangernet.org/powwow/teach.htm>.
>
> So did someone come up with a better idea than Jesus on how to teach people
> to lead boys? I, for one, remain unconvinced.
>
> As much as I respect the national leadership of Royal Rangers, I know that
> they are human and could miss God from time to time, just like me.
> Therefore, I propose this course of action. Let's pray for God to give the
> national leadership godly wisdom and discernment on this issue. If they are
> wrong, this will help them get right. If they are right, then the extra
> godly wisdom and discernment certainly won't hurt them! Besides, if someone
> disagreed with me, that is what I would want them to pray for me for. Let's
> make the Golden Rule our daily rule, again.
>
> Michael Paul Johnson
> aka Soaring Golden Eagle
> PO Box 1151, Longmont CO 80502-1151, USA
> Rocky Mountain outpost 207, New Creation Church
> Jesus Christ is Lord!
>
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