On 29 November 2011 13:51, Robert Burrell Donkin <rdon...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 11/29/11 13:36, Gavin McDonald wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:48 PM
>>> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Vote] renaming the project to creadur
>>>
>>> On 11/29/11 07:30, Hugo Hirsch wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> as pointed out before let's start voting to rename the project to 
>>>> 'creadur'.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> The way I see it, we don't need to rename anything. Were Rat going to an
>>> existing TLP, there would be no problem. The product names don't need to
>>> change. We just need consensus on the board motion.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Yes it is the 'project' we are renaming not the product. it was you yourself 
>> that
>> said 'RAT' would not pass.
>
> That's my best guess but IANAL. I am reasonably sure that it will take
> months of extra work to resolve conclusively whether Rat is suitable or
> not. But it is also possible that the brand team may surprise me and
> just approve Rat as a suitable name. Or the Incubator may remove the
> rule about trademarks and push the problem of names back to the board.
>
> Having Rat as a podling name is safe but may no longer be suitable as a
> top level project name. Officially renaming the podling would mean work
> changing URLs etc which isn't necessary.
>
> So I think the best tactic is just to get everything else sorted out and
> leave the name until the last minute.

Perhaps turn this vote into:

Accept Creadur as an alternative TLP name

or similar, in which case the vote will be ready if needed.
Would that work?

> Robert

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