On 12/21/11 22:10, David Blevins wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> On 12/20/11 20:25, David Blevins wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >>> >>>> "Apache Rat" and "Apache Whisker" would also be fine. Since these names >>>> are simple and are already established, I'm inclined to stick with them. >>> >>> +1 >>> >>>> >>>> We'll need to ship a "Apache Creadur" bundle containing every product. >>> >>> I'd have thought the individual releases would be adequate. >> >> AIUI trademarks only apply to products that ship. Since branding >> requires TLP names and components are trademarkable, I think this means >> we need to ship a product called "Apache Creadur". > > You can trademark all sorts of things that are not products. Slogans, logos, > etc.
This is true for big commercial entities with good trademark lawyers > The trademark identifies the source of products and services. Apache Creadur > would be a source of both products and services. > Those would include "creadur.apache.org" website, "@creadur.apache.org" > mailing lists, http://svn.apache.org/.../creadur repository, mirrored > http://www.apache.org/dist/creadur download space, org.apache.creadur maven > groupId. > > That seems like way more than enough to me. AIUI the United States Patent and Trademark Office seems take a tough line with internet only products and services without significant commercial backing... > We can certainly have an all-in-one bundle if we want to and feel it has > value, but I wouldn't want to see us do it for legal reasons. > Misinformation like that has a way of spreading and becomes really hard to > kill. Ok - let me rephrase: we may end up having to ship an all-in-one product for legal or policy reasons at some time in the future. Robert
