>-----Original Message-----
>From: Raminderjeet Singh [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:24 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: people.create, update, and delete not implemented in rave-
>shindig?
>
>
>Following through this mail thread
>(http://markmail.org/thread/atzynccews3jlsys) and the current tread closely,
>helped me a lot. Matt, Are you recommending having Rave-commons having
>all the models? Then we can use same model in Shindig, Rave and Wookie,
>and write the data access layer individually in those components connecting to
>same database.

Yes, but only need to put the ones that make sense in rave-core (soon to be 
created).

>
>Shindig and Wookie can just have methods based on SPI like getPerson
>getRelation etc and In Rave we can implement createPerson and
>createRelationship. All of data layer are connecting to one database for Open
>social data.
>
>Question?
>Is it Rave backend database or another opensocial database or configurable? I
>will go with configurable option. If i understood from this mail
>http://markmail.org/thread/atzynccews3jlsys#query:+page:1+mid:s5jt2f7rkf2
>t3uyb+state:results, Matt discussed about having it configurable.

If you mean configurable in the sense that it is replaceable by integrators & 
implementers, then I agree.

>
>
>Thanks
>Raminder
>
>
>On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Okke Harsta wrote:
>
>> What we did in the SURFconext project - and this is also how some of the
>potential customers are thinking of using it - is to have the portal and 
>shindig
>use the same database (e.g. Person table). The Open Social clients can use the
>osapi or 2/3 legged rest/rpc interface to retrieve information and the
>update/create functionality is provided by the portal (or in our case a
>provisioning framework based on federative identity). I think the project
>adoption would benefit from an similar approach. If both shindig and rave use
>the same backing data repository then it is easier for clients to replace this
>with an implementation which taps into some existing datasource.
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Raminderjeet Singh wrote:
>>
>>> I added my comments inline.
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Marlon Pierce [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:56 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: people.create, update, and delete not implemented in
>rave-
>>>>> shindig?
>>>>>
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>>>>> Gerald reminded me that we had this discussion before
>>>>> (http://markmail.org/thread/atzynccews3jlsys).  Assuming a shared DB
>>>>> between Rave and Shindig, how does new OpenSocial information get
>>>>> pushed into the DB?
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I had assumed that rave-portal would be responsible for the
>management of a Person Profile that contains a the fields available in Rave-
>Shindig.  This means pulling the core model pieces out into the new rave-core
>project.  If we do this, then the User in rave-portal can extend
>rave.common.model.Person, which would also replace the person model
>class in rave-shindig.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting we should not use rave.opensocial.model.Person in
>Rave-shindig and have another model in rave commons? Then have a service
>to sync or transfer the data. We have all the opensocial models in shindig
>already which we may  use like Friends, Relationship, Messages etc to provide
>opensocial data in Rave for user to collaborate or share gadgets . Shindig
>already provide the API to expose that to Gadgets using OAuth token i guess.
>>>
>>> I will split this into 2 different pieces
>>>
>>> 1. How we populate all the opensocial tables in Shindig? I agree with you
>these table can be made part of Rave or extend in rave to make it simple but
>that will make Rave as a close system and then we need to find out what to
>share externally and what to hide.
>>> 2. We need share the opensocial data to gadgets or external services(like
>with user Facebook profile) based on some security token. This API is
>provided by Shindig itself according to me or some part of it. We may need to
>extend that in some way if needed.
>>>
>>> Do i sound right?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/11 11:25 AM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Marlon Pierce [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:25 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: people.create, update, and delete not implemented in
>rave-
>>>>>>> shindig?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a limitation the Shindig API for PersonService
>>>>>> (org.apache.shindig.social.opensocial.spi.PersonService).  Matt
>>>>>> implemented the API's get methods in DefaultPersonService, but to
>>>>>> implement updatePerson requires a change to the Shindig interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't see resolution on this issue.  IMO, Rave-portal & rave-shindig
>>>>> should share the same database instance for the demo application and
>in
>>>>> minor deployments.  Internally, we plan to do what we did with OSEC &
>Rave,
>>>>> which is to define a common person service that both applications pull
>from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How should we proceed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/8/11 2:32 PM, Marlon Pierce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> We need a way to update the rave-shindig database from
>>>>>>>>> rave-portal--for example, when a new user is created.  I assume
>>>>>>>>> this should be done through the OS API with rave-portal calling
>>>>>>>>> shindig via REST or RPC API.  However, it looks like person.create,
>>>>>>>>> person.update, and person.delete are not implemented;
>person.get is
>>>>>>>>> working ok.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Assuming I'm not making a simple mistake, what do we need to do
>to
>>>>>>>>> enable the additional person methods?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------- Here is what I do:  I have the following json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> { "method" : "people.get", "params" : { "userId" : "canonical" } }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that I invoke with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -X POST -d
>>>>>>>>> @json-person.txt http://localhost:8080/rpc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This works ok.  However, changing the method to person.create
>(or
>>>>>>>>> update or delete) returns the following error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> {"error":{"message":"notImplemented: The method people.create
>is
>>>>>>>>> not implemented","code":501}}
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I realize I need to also create a authorization token and may have
>>>>>>>>> an improperly formed JSON, but I assume these would throw
>>>>>>>>> different errors if the service was implemented.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm following
>>>>>>>>> http://opensocial-resources.googlecode.com/svn/spec/2.0/Social-
>API-
>>>>>> Server.xml#People-Service-Create
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marlon
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