Good point. I've used Listserv which is great at unsubscribing bounces as well as preventing mail loops.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sheppard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:40 PM To: Fox Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Rejecting mail at SMTP level Good mailing list software will auto-unsubscribe people only after several consecutive failures (e.g. SmartList). This behaviour tolerates transient errors/malconfigurations/blacklistings/whatever. Plus if you're relying solely on Razor you're just asking for trouble (as many people have said many times). Mark. On 2003-02-24 (Monday) at 13:04:12 -0500, Fox wrote: > I used to reject mail at the SMTP level until my users were > mysteriously getting de-subscribed from mailing lists. Good list > admins will dump subscribers they can't deliver to, so if someone > Razor's your list, then you get unsubscribed. So now I don't do that > any more. It just silently passes on to the "spam" bucket. I review > messages that that aren't tagged by at least two spam filters. And I > don't have people calling me about their list subscriptions. > > Fox > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Bob Apthorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Turning Razor into a censorship tool > > > [...] I do: Sendmail -> MIMEDefang -> SpamAssassin -> Razor. It's > > very useful for preventing build up of double-bounced spam in the > > postmaster mailbox which was totally swamping legitimate mail. Of > > course I've set things up so that SA has to return a pretty high > > score for MIMEDefang to reject mail (10) and Razor alone won't do it > > (although I've set that quite high (7)). SA scores of 5 to 9.9 get > > a header added. I also shoved a ClamAV scan in there. This setup > > has greatly cleaned up the email stream. > > > > Rejecting at the SMTP level really makes things much easier to deal > > with from an admin point of view, and I imagine that many others > > have discovered this and are doing likewise. I never silently > > discard email because then no-one knows it's a problem. By rejecting > > hopefully someone somewhere will see that there's a problem and do > > something about it. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
