So has EFF started trying to track down the email address that reported it? Should be pretty simple if the message is being bounce back to you because it was labeled as spam.
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:39 PM To: Rod Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Turning Razor into a censorship tool It's not a matter of personal opinion. EFF newsletter is not spam period. You have to sign up to get it - and each newsletter contains unsubscribe information that is simple and works. Therefore - if Razor is listing it as spam - it's either a flaw in razor - being misreported or gamed by a third party - or someone who is feeding bad information to razor through a bad system of reporting what is spam. EFF's newsletter is not being sent to people who don't request it. If is were - then bring those people forward and show me where it's happening so that we can remove them from the database. If you can't - then you can't claim that that is the reason. One of the issues I have a real problem with is that there doesn't seem to be any way for anyone to determine how something got labeled as spam so that the problem can be fixed. There needs to be some accountability in the system. I don't know what a honeypot account is. How does that relate to EFF? Rod wrote: >>>>>The newsletter for the Electronic Frontier Foundation is not spam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>This is still a matter of personal opinion. You must never forget >>>this >>> >>> >>fact. >> >>These two sentences pretty much sum up with what I think is unfixable >>about Razor. If you want to use Razor to 'block' spam, then everyone >>using it has to have the same definition os 'spam' or I suspect this >>thread will go on as long as Razor does. >> >> > >Probably. > > > >>Some people expect Razor to block 'spam' using a reasonable definition >>of what spam is (which, btw, the EFF newsletter would NOT fall under), >> >> > >If it is sent in bulk to people that haven't requested it then it MUST >be considered spam! > >I, like many others have several 'honeypot' accounts (in fact we have a >couple of entire domains used as honeypots), and any mail sent to any >of these accounts or domains are automatically reported as spam. > >If someone decides to sign up for the EFF mailing list using any of >these honeypot accounts then it WILL be reported as spam. The problem >isn't with razor, or the fact that honeypots are being used, the >problem here lies solely with EFF for not bothering to validate >subscriptions. > >Rod > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't >afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. Get >hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. >www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp >_______________________________________________ >Razor-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. Get hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. Get hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
