Running a rbase database connection over wireless is troublesome as the wifi is 
not a perfect connection. You can use remote desktop to the server so none of 
the database connections are running over the wifi.

Dan Goldberg

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Doug 
Hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - PAGELOCK - Tweaking Performance Question

Thanks for your comprehensive research, Bruce - the "other developer" I 
referenced in my original email.
Some answers in-line.
Thanks for your response Mark - I had tried PAGELOCK OFF, see my comments below.

Questions for the list:
Universal question for all the settings: which ones must set before connecting 
the db (MULTI is one) and which can be set after connection (PAGELOCK is one).

Our big issue on the system is unpredictable performance: response is sporadic 
- sometimes forms response and printing is virtually instantaneous and a few 
minutes later we can wait 15 - 30 seconds for lookup in a form.

There are also instances of random data corruption - rows not getting updated, 
data getting changed, occasional lines not getting written to TXT files.

The location is an industrial parts packaging facility. There are 6 wired 
connections and 3 wifi computers on carts in the shipping department.  All 
machines are new Win 10 computers.  The carts have bar code scanners and label 
printers and local installations of R:Base so the RBASE.EXE doesn't have to 
come over the wireless.
All startup.DAT files are read from a \STARTUP folder on the server.  About 5 
of the machines are heavy users - including the carts.

As of this past Sunday, all were updated to RB 10.5.3.20304.  They had been 
10.5.3.11022.  Coincidentally, the consensus of users is that responses are 
slower after the upgrade.  (Upgrade was the only system change, no changes to 
DAT or CFG files.)

In the RBASE.DAT file before connecting, I have among other things:
SET MULTI       ON
SET STATICDB    ON
SET FASTLOCK    ON
SET ROWLOCKS    ON
--SET PAGELOCK    OFF
...
CONNECT ...

Prior to Sunday's update, I thought PAGELOCK OFF would speed things up but it 
appeared to cause R:Base to lock up; I took it out.

Is the sequence of the SETs critical; does ROWLOCKS need to follow FASTLOCK?  
RB help states: "Technically, the efficient and fastest method for updating 
data in multi-user environment is to SET STATICDB ON, SET ROWLOCKS ON, SET 
FASTLOCK ON, and SET PAGELOCK OFF. This particular combination will result in 
the fewest contentions between users." implying ROWLOCKS precedes FASTLOCK.

Some thoughts I'm considering:
Don't run Windows on the carts - run Windows on virtual machines on the server 
and remote desktop to them from the carts.  Is wifi a source of the noted 
issues?
Read RBENGINEX5E.CFG from the server using -O option to ensure all machines 
have the same config. (DAT files already are read from the server).
  Idea Box: set NAME to something unique, e.g. X5E210407 so that R>SHOW NAME 
confirms the intended CFG is being read.

We've also rebooted all machines and network gear but not the server.

Any corroboration or suggestions are welcome.
Client has been more than patient but we are both frustrated.

TIA,
Doug
On 4/5/2021 5:47 PM, Bruce Chitiea wrote:
Doug: Happy Easter, Indeed.

I don't have the answer you seek, but, I'm working in the same arena, looking 
to optimize the SET stack in a .DAT startup file.

For starters, the most up-to-date SETTINGS reference available appears to be 
Section 1.1 "Multi-User Concurrency Settings" found in the R:BASE Multi-User 
Guide: (2021-01-04) in the From the Edge collection. In my estimation, the 
document is close, and getting closer to the definitive guide you and I both 
seek. My practice is to explicitly declare settings in code, rather than to 
rely on documented, though uncoded, default values.

To encourage progress towards development of that definitive guide, a few 
questions:

(1) SET MULTI [ ON | OFF ]  I have read somewhere (but the current document 
does not confirm) that if the first connecting workstation has SET MULTI ON, 
workstations attempting to connect without SET MULTI ON are prevented from 
connecting to the database.

(a) Is this true, and, alternately,
(b) how is an existing single user connection affected if a second station 
attempts to connect with SET MULTI ON?
Can't connect to the db message..
(c) What feedback, if any, does either user receive?
Err msg: The database is currently unavailable -- it is probably open with 
MULTI set off.

(2) SET STATICDB [ ON | OFF ] The document reads: "A user who first connects 
... with STATICDB set to on ..." forces all subsequent users attempting to 
connect to have STATICDB ON.

(a) How is an existing single-user connection affected if a second station 
attempts to connect with SET STATICDB ON?
(b) What feedback, if any, does either user receive?
Similar to SET MULTI


(3) SET FASTLOCK [ ON | OFF ] The document reads: "... FASTLOCK requires all 
users to be connected with the same setting."

(a) How is an existing single-user connection affected if a second station 
attempts to connect with SET FASTLOCK ON?
(b) What feedback, if any, does either user receive?

(4) SET PAGELOCK [ ON | OFF ] The document records that the default value is 
ON, that the value may be different for different users, and that PAGELOCK may 
be set dynamically within application code. The document also reads: "ON - 
R:BASE uses page locking or row locking as appropriate."

(a) What is the practical meaning of "as appropriate."?
(b) IF the default value of ON (implicitly) significantly degrades performance, 
would not OFF be the better choice, and, as the document suggests by example, 
allow the user to toggle it ON/OFF while optimizing the application?
(c) Is there any particular setting below which PAGELOCK must appear?
(d) Is there any particular setting above which PAGELOCK must appear?
(d) Need PAGELOCK be explicitly set in the .DAT file BEFORE database 
connection, or may this be left for the application?

(5) SET ROWLOCKS [ ON | OFF ] The document is rather terse. The document reads: 
"When ROWLOCKS is set off, R:BASE sets table locks during each UPDATE ... "

(a) This appears to override the effect of STATICDB ON, suggesting that 
ROWLOCKS may be dynamically set within application code, and at any given 
moment have a different value for different users.
I believe STATICDB prevents changes to the db structure/data dictionary; 
ROWLOCKS OFF locks the whole table from data changes by other users, ROWLOCK ON 
locks only the row of data for that user - other users can change data in other 
rows.

(b) Can, in fact, ROWLOCKS be set dynamically within an application?
(c) Is there any particular setting below which ROWLOCKS must appear?
(d) Is there any particular setting above which ROWLOCKS must appear?
(e) Need ROWLOCKS be explicitly set in the .DAT file BEFORE database 
connection, or may this be left for the application?

(6) [ INTERVAL | WAIT ] Document is pretty straightforward. But the document 
reads: "When the command runs as part of a command file, however, and the 
waiting period expires, R:BASE ignores the command and goes on to the next 
command."

(a) What if this "breaks" a stream of processing in a most unseemly and barely 
recoverable fashion? Is this the Number One Argument In Favor Of targeted 
Transaction Processing?
(b) Are there any activity monitoring tools available which would enable an 
admin to determine whether Transaction Processing or adjustment of the WAIT and 
INTERVAL values might be the best defense?
(c) Can WAIT and INTERVAL be dynamically set within an application setting?
(d) Can WAIT and INTERVAL values differ for different users?
(e) Is there any particular setting below which  [ INTERVAL | WAIT ] must 
appear?
(e) Need INTERVAL | WAIT be explicitly set in the .DAT file BEFORE database 
connection, or may this be left for the application?

(7) VERIFY [ ROW | COLUMN ]

(a) Does this setting need to be the same for all users connecting to the 
database?
(b) If so, what happens when a user attempts a connection with the converse 
value? What notification is given?
(c) Is there any reason whatsoever to set VERIFY values dynamically within code?
(d) Is there any particular setting below which VERIFY must appear?
(e) Is there any particular setting above which VERIFY must appear?
(f) Need VERIFY be explicitly set in the .DAT file BEFORE database connection, 
or may this be left for the application?


------ Original Message ------
From: "Doug Hamilton" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "R:Base List" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 4/4/2021 9:02:45 AM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - PAGELOCK - Tweaking Performance Question

I'm trying to tweak performance on an R:Base X.5E order processing system (> 
2Gb ) with ~10 users.
We've been running with PAGELOCK ON; I'd like to set it OFF since most of the 
SQL commands have WHERE clauses or are DECLARE CURSOR.
I want to update the RBase.DAT file to set PAGELOCK OFF with these SET commands:

SET MULTI       ON
SET STATICDB    ON
SET VERIFY      COLUMN
SET FASTLOCK    ON
SET ROWLOCKS    ON
SET PAGELOCK    OFF
SET WAIT         4
SET INTERVAL    5
SET REFRESH     0

So I have some questions.
1) Is the order of the SET commands critical?  I originally had ROWLOCKS before 
FASTLOCk and R:Base was freezing up.  Another developer suggested the above 
sequence, putting FASTLOCK before ROWLOCKS.

2) PAGELOCK replaced some of the function of QUALCOLS starting in version X; 
What should be the correct QUALCOLS value if I use the above SETs?  (Client 
does not [currently] SATTACH to other data sources)

3) If a row of data is being updated, does that slow down read-only 
performance, especially if PAGELOCK is on?  e.g. SEL COUNT(Column) FROM table

I welcome any other suggestions.

I would test the above but client has been very patient.  I don't want to cause 
any more anomalies than necessary.

Thanks and Happy Easter
Doug




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