sigh.. he cannot. but it is clear it is occurring in the subject db working environment.
On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 12:20:14 PM UTC-4 jan johansen wrote: > Karen, > > I do not know the answer to the network but I have seen enough strangeness > over networks to question it. > Currently on my network there is a large slowdown that occurs at random > that I haven't been able to pinpoint. > > Maybe Mike Byerly can shed some light on network vagaries, like random > polling and such. > > Jan > > > > > From: "'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:54:38 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Disappearing text > > > Jan: I don't have it here at my place. It has sensitive data so I work > while connected remotely. So it happens to them on the network, and to me > while dialed in (VPN). I could copy it down locally but it's a *massive* > database > > But you gave me an idea to try. I brought the table definition and the > form here to my environment. Made sure I ran the exact build of RBase as > they are. Did the "edit using", sat on a field and waited, and the text > never disappeared. So doesn't appear to be a form setting > > Can a network fire off a "save work" command? > > Karen > > > > On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 09:37:26 AM CDT, jan johansen < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Karen, > > Along the line of Jim's question, does the form exhibit this behavior > running on your development environment i.e. not running across a network? > > Jan > > > > > From: "'jim schmitt' via RBASE-L" <[email protected]> > To: 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:21:29 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Disappearing text > > > Karen: > > do you get the error if you do the 'edit using' from an R: prompt ? or is > the form in question being called by another form ? > > JIm > > > > > On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 09:03:46 AM EDT, 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Javier: > > I think you're getting close. Yep, I'm aware of the need of a dummy space > to land so that it saves your final entry. So that RBase doesn't think > that you've exited the field without wanting to save the value. But a > "landing spot" isn't going to help here because if the user is taking a > long time to type in the big memo field, it will blank out the field *as > the person is typing.* It isn't based on inactivity. That's why they > type outside RBase and copy it into the field. > > So yeah, it's as if there's an "*auto save*" somewhere and it thinks I > don't want my final value because I haven't moved off the field. But is > there such a thing? If so, that's news to me. > > And remember, it only happens in variable edits, doesn't happen in DB > edits. > > There's no form timer. I don't think there's a form timer anywhere within > this application. The 30 seconds is a guess, it can happen earlier than > that or later than that (I have waited up to a minute before it happened). > There is a SET TIMER in the app, I think set for a couple hours, but RBase > isn't exiting in this case. > > Yes, I need the values in those two variables after I exit the form to be > used in an email that will be sent after the form closes. The variable > data isn't saved anywhere. > > So -- is there an "auto save" somewhere? Either a form setting or a "SET" > command that I don't know about? Otherwise since this doesn't happen with > DB edits, I will probably create a temp table and add it to the form and > turn these into DB Edits for the temp table. > > > Karen > > > > > On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 08:03:03 PM CDT, Javier Valencia < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > EDIT USING is the only way I use forms and I don't have issues. What do > the variables do? Do you need them after exiting the form? > The fact it happens after 30 seconds would appear to indicate there might > be a timer that refreshes the form every 30 seconds, and if the variable > has not been saved it might reset it to the original, unchanged value. > In the old days we used to place a dummy field behind the last variable to > provide a landing spot as was mentioned. > If the form is doing an auto save, there is a system variable you can > check to see if there are pending changes and stop the save and return to > the variable field with a message. > > > Javier Valencia, PE > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: 'jim schmitt' via RBASE-L <[email protected]> > Date: 4/21/24 6:16 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: 'KAREN TELLEF' via RBASE-L <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Disappearing text > > > Karen: > > Another thought......If you are using just variables on a form, the last > variable field will need to have another 'dummy field as the form need a > 'landing'.for the cursor (even if not used). I do this all the time > with variable forms, set up a dummy variable field, that the screen never > gets to after the last variable field.. Base your exit or return after the > field is entered. > > Jim > > > On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 06:11:42 PM EDT, 'KAREN TELLEF' via RBASE-L < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Not sure what you mean. The variables are null going into the form. User > is required to type something in both variables > > Karen > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 21, 2024, at 4:12 PM, Bruce Chitiea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > What happens if you define the variables as Form Variables? > Bruce > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L" <[email protected]> > To "RBase List" <[email protected]> > Date 4/21/2024 1:15:36 PM > Subject [RBASE-L] - Disappearing text > > > Version 10.5. Client says this happens in a couple forms, but was > sporadic. Finally there's a form where the issue is easy to replicate so I > have something to work on. > > Issue: if you type something in a variable edit field and are just sitting > in that field, if you wait about 30 seconds the text will disappear. The > value of the variable is truly null when you exit the form. > > Specifics: > > 1. Form is based on a table brought up with "edit using" on just one row > of data. No processing is done before the form is brought up. Literally > one line of code in the main menu option. > > 2. In addition to table fields I have a variable edit and a variable > memo. Both variables are initialized to null on the form's before-start > EEP, one is text type and one is note type. > > 3. The disappearing happens on both of the variable fields. Whether you > are on the text edit or the memo edit, they will disappear. Only the one > you are on will disappear; if you had entered data in the other variable it > sticks around. > > 4. Entering text into a DB Edit field and sitting on that field will not > disappear. > > 5. Doesn't seem to be a case of memory build-up. If you go into the > application and this is the first thing you do, it will happen. Not just > at end of day, after another heavy process, etc. > > > Weird, huh? But I can replicate it every time on this one particular form > > Because they often type long notes into that memo field, and they aren't > fast typists, they have been typing the notes in Word and then copy/paste > into the field and move off the field asap. > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > -- > For group guidelines, visit > http://www.rbase.com/support/usersgroup_guidelines.php > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBASE-L" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbase-l/1125847848.1573463.1713730536856%40mail.yahoo.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbase-l/1125847848.1573463.1713730536856%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > > -- > For group guidelines, visit > http://www.rbase.com/support/usersgroup_guidelines.php > --- > You received this message 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