On 25 Jul 2003 at 12:03, Victor Timmons wrote:

> On 25 Jul 2003 at 10:24, Atrix Wolfe wrote:
> 
> 
> > I think similarly, often times Microsoft makes their stuff unnecesarily
> > complicated and puts out software that they think is how things should be
> > (forcing users to conform to the software instead of making software that 
is
> > useful to users) or make software to further their own agendas 
> 
> They are a business and that's what you do in business. The object of the 
game 
> is to make money. You talk like its your parents forcing you eat your pea's. 
> You still have choices.
> 
> >(breaking standards so their momentum causes their standard to be the new 
> standard,
> > making everyone else have to relearn their stuff and if the old standard
> > made more intuitive sense or was more powerful than the new one, this does
> > everyone a disservice).
> 
> Thats how you set standards. And whats wrong with that? You cant tell me that 

> you don't have some standards of your own when you develop a business program 

> (a look or feel that you think is the best and you think everyone should use. 
I 
> may look at it and think it Sucks) Just think if the standard for storing a 
> program was still on punch cards. I just dont get this kind of thinking. Can 
> you just imagine what the next ver of rbase could be like without microsoft 
> standards. 
> Rbase 7.0 for Netware 3.12
> RBase 7.0 for Netware 4.0+
> RBase 7.0 for linux
> RBase 7.0 for BeOS
> RBase 7.0 for FreeBsd
> Bbase 7.0 for Geo Works
> Rbase 7.0 for PC Dos
> Rbase 7.0 for Unix
> Rbase 7.0 for DrDos
> so on and so on and so on and THEY ALL WOULD SUCK
> 
> > So i take pride in the fact that as a software developer, i know as little
> > as possible about microsoft's crap du jour 
> 
> I don't understand how you can even develop software with that kind of 
thinking
> 
> >(most things completely change about every 2-4 years anyways) and dont think 

> >that someone being unable to use poorly designed, unintuitive software means 

> >that they suck,
> 
> Unable to use or Unwilling to learn???  
> 
>  but that a company large enough to make any software they want >and force it 

> upon the world sucks for not making it more useful without us >having to bend 

> over backwards to use it.
> > 
> > im sure lots of people disagree though (:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:05 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Off topic
> > 
> > 
> > So, because you are a simpleton and unable to use advanced software;
> > Microsoft software sucks?  Isn't it you who sucks?  (nothing personal by
> > that statement)
> > 
> > 
> > Eric Peterson
> > IT Manager
> > QMI Security Solutions
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Castanaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:56 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Off topic
> > 
> > C'mon, Mike - you've got to remember that you are a VB guru, miles ahead
> > of
> > many of us, and continents ahead of an average user.  Some of us are
> > just
> > simpletons wanting to put out a decent document as easy as possible
> > without
> > a six month learning curve.....
> > 
> > BC
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Victor Timmons        
> Tiz's Door Sales, Inc
> 425-258-2391
> 
> 



Victor Timmons  
Tiz's Door Sales, Inc
425-258-2391

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