First, I really like Alastair's request and glad he had the courage to ask, as I did not.
Second, back to my original Q, very specifically, what is the difference between FRAME and BOX values for the Shape property of Bevel? Thanks, Steve in Memphis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Razzak Memon Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:53pm 12:53 To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Difference Between Form Control -Bevel:Shape.[Frame||Box] At 12:21 PM 4/10/2008, Wills, Steve wrote: >This may seem minor - it probably is - but would anyone be able to describe >the difference between the Frame or Box setting of the Shape property of >the Bevel Form Control? > >They each appear to be a quadrilateral (square or rectangle) but the fact >that there are 2 similar-appearing but differently-named of these shapes >makes me wonder if there's some subtle difference between them. At 01:18 PM 4/10/2008, Alastair Burr wrote: >I'm so pleased that you have raised this since it gives me an opening for >something that I have been thinking about asking for ages: > >Even if I ever knew what the descriptions mean I can never remember from >one session to another what looked good or bad so I tend not to make any >changes to the defaults. > >Razzak, is it possible for _either_ the help files to show what all these >settings for frames, etc., look like or - even better - for the controls >to display the changes as you select them rather like the font is shown? Steve, Alastair, et el. In very simple terms, the "Bevel" represents a beveled outline to create beveled boxes, frames, or lines. The bevel can appear raised or lowered. You may customize the Bevel control using the Bevel Style and Bevel Shape properties. Bevel Style can be either Raised or Lowered. Bevel Shape may be used as Box, Frame, Top Line, Bottom Line, Left Line, Right Line, or Spacer. The "Shape" represents a geometric shape that can be drawn on a form. You can add a Shape object to a form to draw a simple geometric shape on the form. Shape introduces properties to describe the pen used to outline the shape and the brush used to fill it. You may further customize the Shape object using the Shape Style properties, such as Rectangle, Square, Radius Edge Rectangle, Radius Edge Square, Ellipse, or Circle. The Shape object can also be enhanced using the Border Color and Border Style, such as Solid, Dash, Dot, Dash-Dot, Dash-Dot-Dot, The best way to understand the visual difference is to place both objects side by side and play with the exposed object properties of each control. If you are using the "Enterprise Editions" of R:BASE 7.6 or Turbo V-8 for Windows, you may explore more detailed properties of each form control using the "Object Inspector". Hope that explains! Very Best R:egards, Razzak.

