[RBASE-L] - Re: MAPI Mail Problem again

Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:20:14 -0700

Hi Mike,
Well, Windows Messaging is a non-Microsoft-world solution that comes from Microsoft.  Groupwise (for one) uses MAPI; windows does not automatically load MAPI.  Groupwise loads Windows Messaging as a part of its install routine...everything works.  Interestingly, Groupwise and Outlook (not express) both use MAPI, and can use the same profile for "dual citizenship", although neither of them like it very much! 
 
There are two main versions of Messaging out there, one is for the "older" windows, and the latest one works even under Vista and XP.
 
For better or for worse, this knowledge is first hand, being a Novell CNE and a Groupwise "die-hard"!  My only question is if David's application will require him to manually set up a profile.
 
Best Regards!
 
Ted


>>> MikeB<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/11/2008 5:40 PM >>>
Is that a holdover from the old Microsoft Mail? Like windows 3.11?

I am seeing references of it at least back to NT 3.51 and I seem to remember it
in Win 3.11.

But if it supports the MAPI NameSpace that will work on current OS, that's all
that matters.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Lienhard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:56 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: MAPI Mail Problem again


David, install Windows Messaging (not the same as Windows Messenger).  This
installs the MAPI files into Windows.  Let me know if you need the installer,
and what version of Windows you want it for (there are different versions for
pre-XP/NT pc's.  This installs the Mail icon and, more importantly, gives you
the ability to create profiles in MAPI.

Best Regards!
Ted

Ted W. Lienhard CNE NCT
Authorized RBase Developer

>>> MikeB<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/11/2008 4:14 PM >>>
David,

  From a couple different places at MSDN (Microsoft Developer Network)

Important  Simple MAPI is not installed by Exchange Server 2003 or later.
However, Simple MAPI is supported for use with Exchange 2003. To function
properly, the underlying Exchange or Microsoft Outlook® MAPI subsystem must be
properly installed on the client computer.



In short, you MUST have "Microsoft Outlook" NOT "Outlook Express" or be running
in an Exchange Server environment for the   "MAPI subsystem" to be present.
That's why there is a logon failure.  There is no MAPI subsystem .

HTH



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:46 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - MAPI Mail Problem again


Dear R:Base friends - I posted this question three weeks ago and many of your
were kind enough to reply.  Immediately thereafter, I began dealing with a
family emergency that has taken most of my time.   I kept your answers in my
Outlook Express inbox, but, as good old MS software is wont to do, when I
checked today all the answers were gone - not in the inbox or deleted messages
file.



So I beg your indulgence as I post the question yet again!



I'm revisiting an application created some time ago in R:Base 7.5.  I have a
menu item that is supposed to allow the user of the application to send an
email  to me requesting help.  This is the EEP that I wrote and worked at the
time I created it:



SET VAR vParameters TEXT = NULL

SET VAR vQuote TEXT = (CVAL('QUOTES'))

SET VAR vDummy TEXT = 'vDummy'

SET VAR vPipe TEXT = '|'

SET VAR vTo TEXT = 'To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

SET VAR vSubject TEXT = 'Subject:Help

SET VAR vParameters = +

(.vQuote+.vDummy&.vPipe+.vTo&.vPipe+.vSubject+.vQuote)

CLS

PLUGIN MAPIMAIL2.RBL &vParameters

CLEAR VAR vParameters, vQuote, vPipe, vTo, vSubject, vAttachments

RETURN



Running it under 7.6, I get first a Windows error message:  "No profiles have
been created.  To create a new profile, use the Mail icon in the Control
Panel."  This is followed by the R:Base 7.6 error message:  "MAPI: Login
Failure: ErrorCode = 3".



When I go to the icon in the Control panel, the only options there refer to MS
Outlook, which is not my email application (I use Outlook Express and I'm sure
other users who will use this application down the road cannot be assumed to
use Outlook Express).



I have tried using MAPIMAIL3 and 4 - no difference.



I've been unable to find help on this issue under R:Base Help (MAPMAIL rbl's
are not listed under PlugIns), Razzak's Sample applications web site or his
"From the Edge" site.  Can anyone direct me to the the right place to get help
on this issue?  Or provide a solution?



PS:  I'm not ruling out the possibility that issue is NOT an R:Base issue: that
my PC somehow thinks Outlook is my default email application instead of Outlook
Express, which is the one I actually use.  Anyone know how to use Windows to
check that?

(Windows help is mum on the subject..)



David Blocker



David Blocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone: 781-344-1920
Cell Phone: 339-206-0261


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David, install Windows Messaging (not the same as Windows Messenger).  This
installs the MAPI files into Windows.  Let me know if you need the installer,
and what version of Windows you want it for (there are different versions for
pre-XP/NT pc's.  This installs the Mail icon and, more importantly, gives you
the ability to create profiles in MAPI.

Best Regards!
Ted

Ted W. Lienhard CNE NCT
Authorized RBase Developer

>>> MikeB<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/11/2008 4:14 PM >>>
David,

  From a couple different places at MSDN (Microsoft Developer Network)

Important  Simple MAPI is not installed by Exchange Server 2003 or later.
However, Simple MAPI is supported for use with Exchange 2003. To function
properly, the underlying Exchange or Microsoft Outlook® MAPI subsystem must be
properly installed on the client computer.



In short, you MUST have "Microsoft Outlook" NOT "Outlook Express" or be running
in an Exchange Server environment for the   "MAPI subsystem" to be present.
That's why there is a logon failure.  There is no MAPI subsystem .

HTH



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:46 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - MAPI Mail Problem again


Dear R:Base friends - I posted this question three weeks ago and many of your
were kind enough to reply.  Immediately thereafter, I began dealing with a
family emergency that has taken most of my time.   I kept your answers in my
Outlook Express inbox, but, as good old MS software is wont to do, when I
checked today all the answers were gone - not in the inbox or deleted messages
file.



So I beg your indulgence as I post the question yet again!



I'm revisiting an application created some time ago in R:Base 7.5.  I have a
menu item that is supposed to allow the user of the application to send an
email  to me requesting help.  This is the EEP that I wrote and worked at the
time I created it:



SET VAR vParameters TEXT = NULL

SET VAR vQuote TEXT = (CVAL('QUOTES'))

SET VAR vDummy TEXT = 'vDummy'

SET VAR vPipe TEXT = '|'

SET VAR vTo TEXT = 'To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

SET VAR vSubject TEXT = 'Subject:Help

SET VAR vParameters = +

(.vQuote+.vDummy&.vPipe+.vTo&.vPipe+.vSubject+.vQuote)

CLS

PLUGIN MAPIMAIL2.RBL &vParameters

CLEAR VAR vParameters, vQuote, vPipe, vTo, vSubject, vAttachments

RETURN



Running it under 7.6, I get first a Windows error message:  "No profiles have
been created.  To create a new profile, use the Mail icon in the Control
Panel."  This is followed by the R:Base 7.6 error message:  "MAPI: Login
Failure: ErrorCode = 3".



When I go to the icon in the Control panel, the only options there refer to MS
Outlook, which is not my email application (I use Outlook Express and I'm sure
other users who will use this application down the road cannot be assumed to
use Outlook Express).



I have tried using MAPIMAIL3 and 4 - no difference.



I've been unable to find help on this issue under R:Base Help (MAPMAIL rbl's
are not listed under PlugIns), Razzak's Sample applications web site or his
"From the Edge" site.  Can anyone direct me to the the right place to get help
on this issue?  Or provide a solution?



PS:  I'm not ruling out the possibility that issue is NOT an R:Base issue: that
my PC somehow thinks Outlook is my default email application instead of Outlook
Express, which is the one I actually use.  Anyone know how to use Windows to
check that?

(Windows help is mum on the subject..)



David Blocker



David Blocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone: 781-344-1920
Cell Phone: 339-206-0261



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