Marc,

 

Have you tried this with MANOPT ON?  I'm assuming your default is OFF.

 

Also, diagram your table relationships defined by the view, with the linking
columns, and compare that to the breaks in your report.  Is your report
forcing a sort that doesn't align well with the logical structure of the
view?

 

Does your view have an ORDER BY?  If so, remove it and let the report do the
sorting, based on breaks.  And do not use an ORDER BY on the report - let
the breaks do the work.

 

Emmitt Dove

Manager, Converting Applications Development

Evergreen Packaging, Inc.

[email protected]

(203) 214-5683 m

(203) 643-8022 o

(203) 643-8086 f

[email protected]

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MDRD
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:55 AM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: 7.5 vs V8 speed

 

Hi Jim, Larry, Emmitt, Razzak and all

 

It looks the internal processing order is different in V8 compared to 7.5

Browse from the view is fast and Unload all did not make any difference

 

It appears I need to force RBase to sort the data in the same order as 7.5 

This view is used to print this report using several Where statements.

 

So is there a way to do this on the Print Statement?

 

Thanks for the help

Marc

 

 

This is the Table order and Where clause in my VIew

FROM tran_hist t_1,ptinfo t_+
2,ptdiag t_3,ch_cod t_4,drinfo t_5,inscomp t_6 WHE+
RE (t_1.tr_type = '1') AND t_1.custnum = t_2.custn+
um AND t_1.custnum = t_3.custnum AND t_1.date_con +
= t_3.date_con AND t_1.ch_code = t_4.ch_code AND t+
_1.treat_dr = t_5.dr_num AND t_4.feesch = t_6.fee_+
sch

* there are only 2 rows in Drinfo

 

In 7.5 I get

R> prompt
05/07/2009  7:28 AM                                         
SelectCost=20.53947  (OptimizationTime=0ms)
  PTINFO (ColumnName=insco1,Type=F) VeryRandom Dup=11.83461 Adj=0.1472802
  INSCOMP (ColumnName=COMPnum,Type=P) VeryRandom Dup=1 Adj=0.8371711
  DRINFO Sequential
  tran_hist (ColumnName=custnum,Type=I) VeryRandom Dup=61.73317
Adj=0.5723843
  ch_cod (ColumnName=CH_CODE,Type=I) VeryRandom Dup=2.929204 Adj=0.336858
  PTDIAG (ColumnName=date_con,Type=I) Random Dup=2.500381 Adj=0.9794695
 
8.0

C:\RBTI\RBG8\Samples\RRBYW14\tt 183
05/07/2009  7:17 AM                                         
SelectCost=7.697846  (OptimizationTime=0ms)
  PTINFO (ColumnName=insco1,Type=I) VeryRandom Dup=11.81472 Adj=0.4676692
  INSCOMP (ColumnName=COMPnum,Type=P) VeryRandom Dup=1 Adj=0.8519737
  tran_hist (ColumnName=custnum,Type=I) VeryRandom Dup=61.74523
Adj=0.6838978
  DRINFO (ColumnName=Dr_num,Type=P) Random Dup=1 Adj=1
  PTDIAG (ColumnName=date_con,Type=I) Random Dup=2.499111 Adj=0.9919748
  ch_cod (ColumnName=CH_CODE,Type=I) VeryRandom Dup=2.929204 Adj=0.3655589
 

 

From: James <mailto:[email protected]>  Bentley 

Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:26 PM

To: RBASE-L Mailing List <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: 7.5 vs V8 speed

 


Marc,
It looks like you need to understand how RBase syntax analyzer and the Rbase
optimizer is interpreting and processing your view statements.  Try issuing
the following commands
SET DEBUG ON
SET VAR MICRORIM_EXPLAIN = 47
RETURN
*(MICRORIM_EXPLAIN
This variable shows the decision the optimizer made when executing a
particular command.  The optimizer results are placed in the file
EXPLAIN.DAT.  The DEBUG command must be on to use microrim_ explain.

The available options for microrim_ explain are
    1 - output the table order.
    2 - force optimization of joins over five tables.  This option is
         ignored if microrim_fullopt is set.
    4 - output the command file name and next byte offset.
    8 - output the current date and time.
   32 - display the sort technique used.

To use multiple options, add the option numbers together and set the
variable to the result.  For example:

SET VAR microrim_explain = (1 + 4 + 8)
SET VAR microrim_explain = 13
)
Then run your report.
Look at the Explain.dat file.

You may need to do this in both versions to see if  RBase is interpreting
the views differently between versions.
Jim Bentley


Jim Bentley
American Celiac Society
[email protected]
tel: 1-504-737-3293

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, MDRD <[email protected]> wrote:


From: MDRD <[email protected]>
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: 7.5 vs V8 speed
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 5:03 PM

 

Unfortunately  Project Temp from View then Printing the Report is not much
faster compared

to the original way.

 

 

 Marc

 

 

It sounds like you should do the PROJECT TEMP ... command from your view
(include the WHERE clause in your PROJECT), base the report on the temp
table instead of the view. 

 

Bill

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM, A. Razzak Memon <[email protected]> wrote:

At 10:25 AM 5/5/2009, Marc Schluter wrote:

The command below takes 2 times longer in V8 compared to the same
code in 7.5.
PRINT  NewForm76D  WHERE tr_date BETWEEN 1/1/09 AND .#date AND
insco1 = 7 AND compnum = insco1 ORDER BY insco1, custnum, tr_date

The report is based on a 6 tab view,  Browse all from View using
the same where clause only takes 1/4 the time compared to the Print
statement.  Leaving off the Order by does not make any difference.

I am using a copy of the same DB converted to V8, so all data,
reports and indexes are the same.

I did notice that the #1 file was 46 k now it is 191 k and the # 3
file is almost double the size in V8.   Is that normal?

I am not sure what to look for next?

 

Marc,

In addition to all the good suggestions you have already received,
take a look at your report for "Pass Settings". If you are not
using the System Variables "Page Set with Description" option,
such as [Page nn of nn], or DBCalcs with "Look Ahead" option,
change the Report "Pass Setting" from "Two Pass" to "One Pass".

Here's how:

Report Designer | Main Menu | Report | Pass Settings

This will definitely speed up the PRINT engine.

Once you have made the suggested change, try the following
command to PRINT the report:

-- Example

-- Start here
PRINT NewForm76D WHERE Tr_Date BETWEEN 1/1/2009 AND .#DATE +
AND InsCo1 = 7 AND CompNum = Insco1 +
ORDER BY InsCo1, CustNum, Tr_Date +
OPTION SCREEN|WINDOW_STATE MAXIMIZED +
|ZOOM_TYPE PERCENTAGE +
|ZOOMPERCENT 98 +
|PREVIEW_CAPTION New Form 76D
RETURN
-- End here

Hope that helps!

Very Best R:egards,

Razzak.

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