Marc,

In my opinion, a user is not capable of being the cause of database
corruption, no matter how ill-behaved he or she is, short of unplugging a
cable in the middle of an update.

A bad user might be able to cause a data integrity problem, but not broken
pointers or indexes.

Bill

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:36 PM, MDRD <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Sorry, true I should have said Off Topic
> I think it is a click happy user on a slow workstation
>
> Marc
>
>
>  *From:* Paul InterlockInfo <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:16 PM
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - RE: Off Topic Data Corruption
>
>
> Network   so change the title/Subject to Off-Topic
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> You have a network error and need to look hard and what time.  Have them
> b/u hourly if needed and compare till you find it.  I would write more but
> we have a HUGE storm here right now and I am double b/u as we speak   sorry!
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Paul D
>
> www.SystemNets.com
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *MDRD
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:05 PM
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - RE: Data Corruption
>
>
>
> Jim and Paul
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> They do an Unload ALL at least month, they did one a week ago when they had
> corruption in 1 table,
>
> The deleted the last 20 rows then did an Unload All which seemed to fix the
> problem for a few says
>
> but now have the corruption again.
>
>
>
> Marc
>
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>
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> *From:* Paul InterlockInfo <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:33 PM
>
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
>
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - RE: Data Corruption
>
>
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> The answer to your question “yes”   that is why Rscope or do a Razzak
> routine Unload / load with error messages on etc…   It is all at his ftp
> site.  It will show you the errors.
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>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Paul D
>
> www.SystemNets.com
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> You also might try using a slightly different data pack (larger/more info
> in every packet) protocol “NetBios”  it has more information in the data
> pack and a different arrangement for the data/bit check authorization (front
> end check w/rear verification).  Back in the old days Novell (hint on the
> name “NetBois”) was very stable but when Windows and the Internet came along
> “TCP/IP” won out.  Control Panel> Network Connections >  “This connection
> uses the following items:” > Install > Client > NetBois   DONE!
>
>
>
> Now you can run both at the same time and Windows seems to handle it well.
> The IT person will be familiar with the protocol.  There are also ways to
> scan and watch for dropped packets and do a before and after comparison.
>  Run it as I recall with Wins in the DNS area.
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> Perhaps some others will correct any errors I have made.  But it is what I
> recall.
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> referances: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314067
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *MDRD
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:37 PM
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - RE: Data Corruption
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>
>
> Can Autochck pass but there still be some corrupt data inside the Varchar
> column?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Belisle <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:25 PM
>
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
>
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - RE: Data Corruption
>
>
>
> Marc,
>
>
>
> We just had a long discussion on the list about the bugaboo “Access
> Violation”.
>
> From what the list told me, it is a very hard thing to track down.
>
> That could be anything from hardware to wires to communication between
> server and the PC.
>
>
>
> I know here, that problem was only on two stations, mine and one other
> station.
>
> Mine was limited to a specific transaction so I was not as worried about
> that.
>
> The one PC however, I believe was more to do with the PC itself.
>
> That PC has had all sorts of problems, from the email locking up RBASE to
> viruses.
>
>
>
> If the data is being corrupted, that may cause the violation as well form
> what I’ve been told.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *MDRD
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:18 PM
> *To:* RBASE-L Mailing List
> *Subject:* [RBASE-L] - Data Corruption
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Well that office with the slow Delete problem had data corruption for the
> second time in a about 10 days.
>
> I wonder if they are clicking like crazy or pressing ESC because of the
> delay?  I am sending them a new
>
> Main menu that runs the Delete code when they close the day, which is run
> on the server and that should
>
> solve that issue for now at least.
>
>
>
> My guess is a network issue.  They have a good network tech and he is not
> blaming me or RBase but he
>
> was talking about the network sending packets of info and things over my
> head.
>
>
>
> I told him that if there is a hiccup or brown power during a Save Row or
> something that might corrupt the data.
>
> He said he thought that if a packet was not received that the packet gets
> resent and that should not
>
> cause a problem as far as he knew.
>
>
>
> I am not sure if this is the difference between C/S and file server? or is
> there something else I can tell him to look for?
>
> He is going to change the cables and do a few other hardware things in the
> morning.  No AV software is running.
>
>
>
> Also they got an Access Violation the other day if that means anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc
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