I also like the EDIT for entering data. Before loading the form, I check that
there enough empty rows in the second table.
RRR

Ben Petersen wrote:
> 
> In older versions of RBase I maintained different forms for adding
> new data vs. editing what existed. Now I do everything with an edit
> form... no menu, no run time tool bar. New records are created with
> inserts.
> 
> Lately I've been using forms with variables that mimic the actual
> columns and drive everything with eeps (updates/inserts) and
> choose statements.  It's more work, but makes for a very smooth
> interface.
> 
> The thing that's missing is an elegant way, while editing, to add
> new records to the second table of a two table form where the
> second table is within a region. And have the new row and the
> cursor visible, with the cursor either on the new row or left where it
> was.
> 
> Ben Petersen
> 
> On 16 Aug 2001, at 18:08, Dennis McGrath wrote:
> 
> > I think what Jim is expressing is his dismay that radio buttons and check
> > boxes, which are another way to enter/edit/display information, have no way
> > to have the same kind of control that you have with a column or variable
> > field. In a column or variable field, you can define whether the user can:
> > 1. enter data
> > 2. change existing data
> >
> > This is not available with the aforementioned controls.  They should have
> > the same amount of control as other data manipulation methods.  Why would
> > anyone want to have one form of user interface/display for data entry, and
> > another for editing later?  Most users need consistency, not confusion, in
> > their windows interface.
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> > -- Dennis McGrath
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of A. Razzak Memon
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Check Box - Field Settings - Razzak's Reply
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Check Boxes are designed to Check/Uncheck option(s), used
> > either for EDIT or ENTER USING FormName.
> >
> > And, Field Setting Options are also provided accordingly.
> >
> > Very Best Regards,
> >
> > Razzak.
> >
> > At 02:37 PM 8/16/2001 -0500, Jim Miller wrote:
> > >Razaak,
> > >
> > >Any form uses text, numeric, etc. fields in the same manner and your logic
> > >would be that
> > >you would only ever use a form in either edit or entry.
> > >
> > >Why doesn't your logic work for all fields, and then why don't you remove
> > >field settings
> > >for all field locations?
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > >Behalf Of A. Razzak Memon
> > >Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:02 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Check Box - Field Settings - Razzak's Reply
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Jim,
> > >
> > >Check Boxes on a form are useful when you want users
> > >to make true/false or yes/no selections.
> > >
> > >When you define a check box, you specify a value that
> > >will be used if the box is checked, and a value to use
> > >if the box is not checked.
> > >
> > >In your situation, after the initial entry form with
> > >check boxes, etc., to collect data, I would create
> > >another form (Edit Form) to display the same data in
> > >a column field with appropriate field settings!
> > >
> > >Very Best Regards,
> > >
> > >Razzak.
> > >
> > >At 01:45 PM 8/16/2001 -0500, Jim Miller wrote:
> > >
> > >>Is there anyway to have a check box and to adjust
> > >>the field settings so that the user cannot change
> > >>the value as you can in any standard field settings?
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