Alastair - make sure your FILES setting is high enough.  Been there, done that. 


"David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Alastair
>
>Try placing PAUSE 2 commands throughout the app to see where it is crashing.
>That may help you narrow it down.
>
>Have you done the obvious like AUTOCHK and RELOAD the database?
>
>David Blocker
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:29 AM
>Subject: Re: Persistant System Crashes but TRACE reports no errors -
>Razzak's Reply
>
>
>> Thanks Razzak for your swift response.
>>
>> However, there are _no_ while loops in the app. All it does is gather some
>> info from one database and create a temp table with that data in the
>driving
>> database for use in a form for display purposes. The form does not get
>> updated as it has a number of buttons which run other apps. It has only
>> started crashing since adding the temp table with the displayed data to
>the
>> form.
>>
>> I thought that it might be the latest beta version so I reverted to patch
>2
>> but that made no difference - as expected, really. I have also checked
>that
>> all the variables are pre-defined, not deleted, nor data type changed
>before
>> the form is run with edit using.
>>
>> I have found something that seems to make a difference in that I get
>crashes
>> only 50% of the time now. Running the app immediately after booting now
>> seems to work but second or subsequent attempts cause a crash. Those
>> subsequent attempts seem to fail because RBG65 is still running according
>to
>> Windows after a crash. I suspect that the HIDE command is a problem here
>> because the crash happens before the SHOW command is reached. However,
>> removing the HIDE & SHOW commands does not stop the crashing. As far as I
>> can see the EXIT command is run properly but maybe the form does not close
>> correctly. I'm clutching at straws here.
>>
>> What I have changed is this:
>>
>> CREATE TEMP TABLE ToDo (Things TEXT (60), EntryDate DATETIME)
>>
>> to:
>>
>> CREATE TEMP TABLE `ToDo` +
>> �(`Things` TEXT (60), � �+
>> � `EntryDate` DATETIME )
>>
>> ie: added the IDQuotes around the table and column names.
>> If this is a syntax error then trace does not seem to pick it up, nor does
>> it appear to matter from the R:> when creating the table "manually". It
>> might be part of the problem when creating the table via the app.
>>
>> What I might be able to do is to reconfigure the form to use only the temp
>> table or use the temp table as the driving table and see if that makes any
>> difference but that seems to be avoiding the problem rather than resolving
>> it - even if it were to work...
>>
>> Any further suggestions gratefully accepted,
>> Regards,
>> Alastair.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "A. Razzak Memon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Persistant System Crashes but TRACE reports no errors -
>> Razzak's Reply
>>
>>
>> >
>> > At 12:19 AM 6/5/2002 +0100, Alastair Burr wrote:
>> >
>> > >Can anyone tell me how it is possible to run an application through
>TRACE
>> > >and consistently have no errors and yet R:Base crashes EVERY time I
>start
>> > >the app via an icon?
>> >
>> >
>> > Alastair,
>> >
>> > Looks like the WHILE loop optimization issue!
>> >
>> > SET WHILEOPT OFF at the mighty R> prompt and try it again. If it runs
>> > then you know there is a problem with an optimized command and the
>> > problem is most likely with a variable used in that command.
>> >
>> > FYI, TRACE does not use the WHILE loop optimization.
>> >
>> > WHILE loops were always considered one of the faster ways to process
>> > code because R:BASE read the WHILE loop code into memory and parsed
>> > it before beginning execution. R:BASE did not need to do line-by-line
>> reading
>> > and parsing of the code for each iteration of the WHILE loop. As it is
>> read
>> > into
>> > memory the WHILE loop code was parsed in tokens (4-byte segments). But
>> > R:BASE still needed to figure out what was what -- parse the
>expressions,
>> > find variable names and values etc. It was faster than reading and
>parsing
>> > line-by-line, but not as fast as it could be.
>> >
>> > Tips:
>> >
>> > 01. Datatype variables at the beginning of a command file or before the
>> > � � �WHILE loop is executed. Don't datatype variables inside the WHILE
>> > � � �loop, they won't be optimized.
>> >
>> > 02. The variables used in any optimized command can change values as
>> > � � �the WHILE loop iterations are executed, but they cannot change data
>> > � � �types and cannot be cleared (with the CLEAR VAR command).
>> >
>> > 03. The value can be reset to NULL (SET VAR vname = NULL) but not
>> > � � �cleared.
>> >
>> > 04. If you determine that the problem is with an optimized command,
>review
>> > � � �the rules above, you may be clearing, retyping or not data typing a
>> > variable.
>> >
>> > Well, that should give you pretty good idea.
>> >
>> > Very Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Razzak.
>> >
>> > P.S. �After the Inside R:BASE 7.0 for Windows training session this
>week,
>> > I'll post more details at: htp://www.razzak.com/fte
>> >
>> >
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