So, Mike, it seems that you are way better-versed than I. As such, have you seen any of v7 and, if so, what's your interpretation of RBTI's (current) approach to architecture/development. I ask because, if what I've heard about the rapid cycle-time in fixing bugs/implementing features is true, then I suspect that even w/superior app-dev (SDLC) management, it couldn't be that v7 is based on "a procedural/linear environment". F/example, based on what we've heard about the training/JAD sessions, couldn't we suppose that they are (at the least) extending Delphi's (base) classes and/or designing/implementing their own?
Unfortunately, I'm not current in Delphi, BCPP, VCPP/VB, but it sounds like you are - I'd love to hear more of your thoughts in this area. I remain an optimistic skeptic - if you'll accept the (potential) oxymoron - but I must admit that everything I've read has biased me marginally toward the optimistic. Thanks, Steve in Memphis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Byerley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this? > What you are asking is easily accomplished in the Delphi/VB/(C++ > Windows)programming environment. Not so easy in the Linear programming > environment that constitutes RBase as we know it now. There may be > "hardwired kludges" that could be tied to a "Special Type of DbEdit or Add > to the properties of the Existing DbEdit" that would reflect this behavior, > but to do it on the fly at runtime isn't likely to be realized until the > programming environment more closely approximates the native Delphi > environment (this doesn't mean programming in Pascal, but just changing the > way RBase programming is interpreted as an Object Based environment instead > of a procedural/linear environment. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Stephen Wills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this? > > > > Dan, as the date you give was f/v6.Xx?, I've got to ask, is the current > > desire f/6.5PP or would it be intended f/v7.Xx? Just wanted to verify > this > > first, because I suspect it'd definitely be a "non-starter" f/anything > > <=v7.0. Anyway, the only hardcore "catch" I can think of, based on what > > (little I think) I know is related to Delphi. As I understand it, v7.0 is > > being re-written in Delphi - a fine choice, IMO - and I don't know how > > easy/difficult it'd be to implement such functionality therein and > > therewith. I say that because there's a whole cottage industry related to > > delivering "flexible" grid tools to developers, so I must deduce (is that > > the correct type of logic?) that some tools don't offer a lot in this > area. > > > > However, that is more of an implementation issue, rather than one of > > functional requirements (well, okay, Razzak, a request). Anyway, if I (or > > anyone else willing to ...) could write-up a decent description, then it'd > > probably be a big help to Razzak, RBTI, and the Dream Team - I'm sure that > > w/o good requirements, they become the de facto "nightmare" team when it > > comes to figurin' out what it is we might actually want. I know that I've > > lost sleep because my users hadn't given a full set of functional > > requirements, much less solid definitions of the ones they would/could > > describe. > > > > So, can you gimme' both a "I'd Love To Have It By" and a "Drop-Dead" date > > f/such a description? I'm really busy f/about another 2-3 weeks. Also, > in > > what is appropriate f/this collegial forum, I'd post it f/review by > > everyone, as it develops. > > > > Let's keep the talk goin', > > Steve in Memphis > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:44 PM > > Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this? > > > > > > > Steve, > > > Maybe you would be able to write the description better so that they > > > would see the value of it. I first submitted this request on 09/10/1999 > > > as 'Live Variables' with the description... > > > ... > > > 'Would like to see the ability to display colors in a field based on the > > > results of a computed variable. ie: > > > if var dummy is null then > > > set dummyfield backround blue > > > endif > > > ... > > > All of my other enhancement requests are 'slated for version 7' so I am > > > really excited about it comming out. > > > Dan > > > > > > At 10:57 AM 12/3/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Man, I think both of these "enhancements" SHOULD be given serious > > attention > > > >by RBTI, if they haven't already started working on 'em. Both of these > > > >ideas, > > > > > > > >- "Conditional Color(s)", based (perhaps) on the value of the data w/in > a > > > >field > > > >- "Form/Grid/Presentation_Object Refresh Interval", at > > > >Pick_The_Appropriate_Object Level > > > > > > > >are great ideas that should be included in what appears to be a good > and > > > >getting better product. > > > > > > > >Razzak & RBTI, I'm not trying to damn you "with feint praise", but > these > > > >little bells-n-whistles are so useful to app-dev folks that they are > > > >actually far beyond little musical chimes, if you'll allow me to > continue > > > >the metaphor. > > > > > > > >My $0.02, FWIW, but, I'd be happy to try and write-up functional > > > >descriptions ... > > > > > > > >Later, > > > >Steve in Memphis > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Dan Champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:20 AM > > > >Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Well, > > > >> I thought so too, when I submitted it before it was denied, that is > > why > > > >I > > > >> asked what "verified, no plans to include" meant. Dr. R said that If > I > > was > > > >> the only one then special plans could be made. > > > >> Since I could see the obvious uses for this, I figured it must > just > > be > > > >> something that couldn't be done, or done yet. I am sure at some point > > the > > > >> Dream Team can find a way to do it. > > > >> At this point I have resubmitted the request to RDCC, and am > waiting > > > >> patiently for some response from RBTI if I need to have special > > > >> arrangements as DR.R suggested. > > > >> > > > >> Dan > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> At 10:36 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >> >I believe most of the RB community could use this feature. > > > >> > > > > >> >Jim > > > >> > > > > >> >At 04:21 PM 11/29/02 -0800, you wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >Dan - > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I would find this enhancement very useful. Please submit > > it. > > > >> > > > > > >> > >Bernie > > > >> > >---------------------------------------- > > > >> > >At 10:38 AM 11/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > > >> > >>Dr. R, > > > >> > >> Thank you, and I hope you and yours are having a wonderful > > holiday > > > >> > >>weekend. I will again send my enhancement request to the rdcc. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I wonder if I am the only developer on the list that would find > > it > > > >> > >>benificial, so I will also post it here and see if others would > > find > > > >it > > > >> > >>beneficial. Maybe if I am not the only one, it would be easier to > > > >allocate > > > >> > >>time to this request. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>Ehnancement request: Was called 'Live Variables' > > > >> > >> The ability to change the color of text, or backround in a form > > > >based on > > > >> > >>the results of a lookup for a variable. > > > >> > >> I currently use as my main dispatch screen for 7 technicians, a > > > >variable > > > >> > >>based form with over 100 grid like squares (8 columns, 10 rows, > for > > > >the > > > >> > >>main grid) these variables are populated by 'service calls' > based > > on > > > >if > > > >> > >>there is a call for a specific technician and time frame. > > > >> > >> The ability to change the colors on the fly would allow me the > > > >ability to > > > >> > >>also see the status of the call. Black text (the call still Has > > been > > > >run) > > > > > > >> > >>Red Text (the call is currently being run) and > > > >> > >>Green text (the call has yet to be run) > > > >> > >> Currently I have either text or no text based on if the call > has > > > >been run > > > >> > >>(no text) or needs to be run (text). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>Thanks, > > > >> > >>Dan Champion > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>>Dan. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>Remember, NOTHING is impossible! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>Enhancement request(s) are evaluated based on the ultimate use > > > >> > >>>and the benefits to all users of that particular version. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>If you have a "very special" enhancement request(s), you can > > > >> > >>>work with our Dream Team, as a special arrangement, and see > > > >> > >>>if they can make you special OEM version to meet your needs. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>RBTI has made such arrangements and have provided special > > > >> > >>>versions for special industry use. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>Very Best Regards, > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>Razzak. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>================================================ > > > >> > >>TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: > > > >> > >>Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >>In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l > > > >> > >>================================================ > > > >> > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >>In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l > > > >> > >>================================================ > > > >> > >>TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: > > > >> > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >================================================ > > > >> > >TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: > > > >> > >Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l > > > >> > >================================================ > > > >> > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l > > > >> > >================================================ > > > >> > >TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: > > > >> > >http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ > > > >> > > > > > >> >======================================== > > > >> >Jim Schmitt > > > >> > Ohio Software Services > > > >> > 2211 Lake Club Drive > > > >> > Columbus, Oh 43232 > > > >> > Phone 1-614-863-1850 > > > >> > Fax 1-614-863-0325 > > > >> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >======================================== > > > >> >================================================ > > > >> >TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: > > > >> >Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l > > > >> >================================================ > > > >> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l > > > >> >================================================ > > > >> >TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: > > > >> >http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dan Champion > > > >> P.O. 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