I cannot speak for Razaak or the dream team, but I would expect reality to dictate the programming environment for RBase to make a metamorphosis to object based in a future version. The transition in one big gulp would not mesh very well with existing code base. I would love it, but based on what I have seen with 7.0 so far, it is a HUGE advancement for RBase! In the meantime, Razaak keeps giving us these little tools to extend the power of RBase to still allow us to do damn near anything we want to do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Stephen Wills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this?
So, Mike, it seems that you are way better-versed than I. As such, have you
seen any of v7 and, if so, what's your interpretation of RBTI's (current)
approach to architecture/development. I ask because, if what I've heard
about the rapid cycle-time in fixing bugs/implementing features is true,
then I suspect that even w/superior app-dev (SDLC) management, it couldn't
be that v7 is based on "a procedural/linear environment". F/example, based
on what we've heard about the training/JAD sessions, couldn't we suppose
that they are (at the least) extending Delphi's (base) classes and/or
designing/implementing their own?
Unfortunately, I'm not current in Delphi, BCPP, VCPP/VB, but it sounds like
you are - I'd love to hear more of your thoughts in this area.
I remain an optimistic skeptic - if you'll accept the (potential) oxymoron -
but I must admit that everything I've read has biased me marginally toward
the optimistic.
Thanks,
Steve in Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Byerley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this?
> What you are asking is easily accomplished in the Delphi/VB/(C++
> Windows)programming environment. Not so easy in the Linear programming
> environment that constitutes RBase as we know it now. There may be
> "hardwired kludges" that could be tied to a "Special Type of DbEdit or Add
> to the properties of the Existing DbEdit" that would reflect this
behavior,
> but to do it on the fly at runtime isn't likely to be realized until the
> programming environment more closely approximates the native Delphi
> environment (this doesn't mean programming in Pascal, but just changing
the
> way RBase programming is interpreted as an Object Based environment
instead
> of a procedural/linear environment.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Stephen Wills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this?
>
>
> > Dan, as the date you give was f/v6.Xx?, I've got to ask, is the current
> > desire f/6.5PP or would it be intended f/v7.Xx? Just wanted to verify
> this
> > first, because I suspect it'd definitely be a "non-starter" f/anything
> > <=v7.0. Anyway, the only hardcore "catch" I can think of, based on what
> > (little I think) I know is related to Delphi. As I understand it, v7.0
is
> > being re-written in Delphi - a fine choice, IMO - and I don't know how
> > easy/difficult it'd be to implement such functionality therein and
> > therewith. I say that because there's a whole cottage industry related
to
> > delivering "flexible" grid tools to developers, so I must deduce (is
that
> > the correct type of logic?) that some tools don't offer a lot in this
> area.
> >
> > However, that is more of an implementation issue, rather than one of
> > functional requirements (well, okay, Razzak, a request). Anyway, if I
(or
> > anyone else willing to ...) could write-up a decent description, then
it'd
> > probably be a big help to Razzak, RBTI, and the Dream Team - I'm sure
that
> > w/o good requirements, they become the de facto "nightmare" team when it
> > comes to figurin' out what it is we might actually want. I know that
I've
> > lost sleep because my users hadn't given a full set of functional
> > requirements, much less solid definitions of the ones they would/could
> > describe.
> >
> > So, can you gimme' both a "I'd Love To Have It By" and a "Drop-Dead"
date
> > f/such a description? I'm really busy f/about another 2-3 weeks. Also,
> in
> > what is appropriate f/this collegial forum, I'd post it f/review by
> > everyone, as it develops.
> >
> > Let's keep the talk goin',
> > Steve in Memphis
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this?
> >
> >
> > > Steve,
> > > Maybe you would be able to write the description better so that they
> > > would see the value of it. I first submitted this request on
09/10/1999
> > > as 'Live Variables' with the description...
> > > ...
> > > 'Would like to see the ability to display colors in a field based on
the
> > > results of a computed variable. ie:
> > > if var dummy is null then
> > > set dummyfield backround blue
> > > endif
> > > ...
> > > All of my other enhancement requests are 'slated for version 7' so I
am
> > > really excited about it comming out.
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > At 10:57 AM 12/3/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >Man, I think both of these "enhancements" SHOULD be given serious
> > attention
> > > >by RBTI, if they haven't already started working on 'em. Both of
these
> > > >ideas,
> > > >
> > > >- "Conditional Color(s)", based (perhaps) on the value of the data
w/in
> a
> > > >field
> > > >- "Form/Grid/Presentation_Object Refresh Interval", at
> > > >Pick_The_Appropriate_Object Level
> > > >
> > > >are great ideas that should be included in what appears to be a good
> and
> > > >getting better product.
> > > >
> > > >Razzak & RBTI, I'm not trying to damn you "with feint praise", but
> these
> > > >little bells-n-whistles are so useful to app-dev folks that they are
> > > >actually far beyond little musical chimes, if you'll allow me to
> continue
> > > >the metaphor.
> > > >
> > > >My $0.02, FWIW, but, I'd be happy to try and write-up functional
> > > >descriptions ...
> > > >
> > > >Later,
> > > >Steve in Memphis
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Dan Champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:20 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: Enhancement request, could anyone else use this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Well,
> > > >> I thought so too, when I submitted it before it was denied, that
is
> > why
> > > >I
> > > >> asked what "verified, no plans to include" meant. Dr. R said that
If
> I
> > was
> > > >> the only one then special plans could be made.
> > > >> Since I could see the obvious uses for this, I figured it must
> just
> > be
> > > >> something that couldn't be done, or done yet. I am sure at some
point
> > the
> > > >> Dream Team can find a way to do it.
> > > >> At this point I have resubmitted the request to RDCC, and am
> waiting
> > > >> patiently for some response from RBTI if I need to have special
> > > >> arrangements as DR.R suggested.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> At 10:36 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >> >I believe most of the RB community could use this feature.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Jim
> > > >> >
> > > >> >At 04:21 PM 11/29/02 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Dan -
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I would find this enhancement very useful. Please
submit
> > it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Bernie
> > > >> > >----------------------------------------
> > > >> > >At 10:38 AM 11/28/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >> > >>Dr. R,
> > > >> > >> Thank you, and I hope you and yours are having a wonderful
> > holiday
> > > >> > >>weekend. I will again send my enhancement request to the rdcc.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I wonder if I am the only developer on the list that would
find
> > it
> > > >> > >>benificial, so I will also post it here and see if others would
> > find
> > > >it
> > > >> > >>beneficial. Maybe if I am not the only one, it would be easier
to
> > > >allocate
> > > >> > >>time to this request.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>Ehnancement request: Was called 'Live Variables'
> > > >> > >> The ability to change the color of text, or backround in a
form
> > > >based on
> > > >> > >>the results of a lookup for a variable.
> > > >> > >> I currently use as my main dispatch screen for 7 technicians,
a
> > > >variable
> > > >> > >>based form with over 100 grid like squares (8 columns, 10 rows,
> for
> > > >the
> > > >> > >>main grid) these variables are populated by 'service calls'
> based
> > on
> > > >if
> > > >> > >>there is a call for a specific technician and time frame.
> > > >> > >> The ability to change the colors on the fly would allow me
the
> > > >ability to
> > > >> > >>also see the status of the call. Black text (the call still Has
> > been
> > > >run)
> > >
> > > >> > >>Red Text (the call is currently being run) and
> > > >> > >>Green text (the call has yet to be run)
> > > >> > >> Currently I have either text or no text based on if the call
> has
> > > >been run
> > > >> > >>(no text) or needs to be run (text).
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>Thanks,
> > > >> > >>Dan Champion
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>>Dan.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>Remember, NOTHING is impossible!
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>Enhancement request(s) are evaluated based on the ultimate use
> > > >> > >>>and the benefits to all users of that particular version.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>If you have a "very special" enhancement request(s), you can
> > > >> > >>>work with our Dream Team, as a special arrangement, and see
> > > >> > >>>if they can make you special OEM version to meet your needs.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>RBTI has made such arrangements and have provided special
> > > >> > >>>versions for special industry use.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>Very Best Regards,
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>Razzak.
> > > >> > >>
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