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Message       brianheibert.com           Post subject: Playing a notePosted: 
Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:35 am                               
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Location: Loveland, OH USA              I am looking for the NotePlayer control 
but can't find it.
Is it supposed to be done in code?

How would I go about playing a sound from NotePlayer?

I know this is a stupid question, but I just can't seem to find the NotePlayer 
control
and can't get the note playing code to work that is in the RB language 
reference.

Brian   
                            Top                pregan           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:09 pm                             
  
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Location: Boston, MA, USA              The NotePlayer control has been 
deprecated, but not eliminated. You can still create a NotePlayer object by 
adding a new class in the Project tab and changing the "Super" property to 
"NotePlayer".     
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subject: Re: Playing a notePosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:37 pm                    
           
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Location: Loveland, OH USA              Ok thanks     
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                            Top                paulg           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:32 pm                        
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Posts: 116              pregan wrote:The NotePlayer control has been 
deprecated, but not eliminated. You can still create a NotePlayer object by 
adding a new class in the Project tab and changing the "Super" property to 
"NotePlayer".

According to this:
http://www.realsoftware.com/products/realbasic/deprecations

It has been "Deemphasized", not deprecated.  Not sure if that means they are 
next on the chopping block or not, but it seems it is better then 
deprecated->removed.

Paul     
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                            Top               pregan           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:54 pm                              
 
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Location: Boston, MA, USA              Same difference.     
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                            Top               paulg           Post subject: Re: 
Playing a notePosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:52 pm                        
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Posts: 116              pregan wrote:Same difference.

That's the question though, is it the same difference?  If it is then it is odd 
that they just don't say Deprecated and put them in one of the deprecated 
lists.  Why cause confusion?

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                            Top               pregan           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:26 am                              
 
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Location: Boston, MA, USA              From Wikipedia:
Quote:In computer software standards and documentation, the term deprecation is 
applied to software features that are superseded and should be avoided. 
Although deprecated features remain in the current version, their use may raise 
warning messages recommending alternate practices, and deprecation may indicate 
that the feature will be removed in the future. Features are 
deprecated—rather than being removed—in order to provide backward 
compatibility and give programmers using the feature time to bring their code 
into compliance with the new standard.


Also from the same entry:
Quote:Reasons for deprecation
Programmers or standards-makers may choose to deprecate a feature for any 
number of reasons. Some common cases are:...
▪ The feature is considered extraneous, and will be removed in the future in 
order to simplify the system as a whole.


So what if I didn't use REALbasic's exact term? The meaning was inferred.

Cheers     
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                            Top               pregan           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:26 am                              
 
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Location: Boston, MA, USA              One more thing, the chances of the 
NotePlayer coming back from those lists are very slim. Apple has made it 
official that Quicktime is to no longer be used MIDI purposes, which is what 
NotePlayer uses, and everything is to be moved to CoreAudio. However, that is a 
much more complex set of classes to maintain, almost too complex, and I'm sure 
RS has it on their lists so they can maintain those features that people 
actually use. So matter how you look at it, it's the same difference.     
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                            Top               paulg           Post subject: Re: 
Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:37 pm                        
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Posts: 116              Quote:So what if I didn't use REALbasic's exact term? 
The meaning was inferred.

Wow, don't take it so personal I was merely pointing out what is stated on the 
RB site because I wanted to know exactly what the difference is and it seemed 
to me that maybe there was a difference.     
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                            Top               timhare           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:07 pm                        
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Location: Portland, OR  USA              My understanding of the difference is:

Deemphasized = soon to be deprecated, unless we find a reason not to
Deprecated = soon to be removed, adjust your code accordingly

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Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:38 pm                        
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Location: U.S.A (often) Spokane, Eugene, Pago Pago              Quote:My 
understanding of the difference is:

I agree with your distinction, Tim. I thought we were informed that the rough 
schedule was movement from Deemphasized to Deprecated in one release, then to 
Removal in the following release.

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                            Top               paulg           Post subject: Re: 
Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:36 pm                        
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Posts: 116              Thanks for the clarification.  So basically, based on 
this information, you don't want to spend too much time learning or using these 
technologies as they might not be there next year?

Do you know if there is a set time that they stay on the Deemphasized list 
before moving to the deprecated list? Or is it more when they find a 
replacement?

Thanks,

Paul     
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                            Top               brianheibert.com           Post 
subject: Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:56 pm                     
          
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Location: Loveland, OH USA              I decided to not use the NotePlayer in 
my application.

By the way my application is finished.  CopyMate.
It copies and moves files.  Requires MacOS X (It will not run on OS 9 and below)


Download at:  http://www.brianheibert.net/software/copymate.dmg.zip
Or just go to http://www.brianheibert.net  and click on Software

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                            Top                TomHicks           Post subject: 
Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:56 pm                        
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Posts: 49              Any more information regarding this product, because I 
have a keyboard and a mouse for copying and moving files.   
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subject: Re: Playing a notePosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:06 pm                     
          
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Location: Loveland, OH USA              Well it doesn't do batch copying yet, 
but I may look into that.
It basically is for if you do copying using the unix terminal you can use my 
program instead
because my program uses the shell 

It is not intended to replace the Finder.     
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