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<http://forums.realsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?t=44032> Page 1 of 1 [ 5 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic Author Message fhuvu Post subject: dudasPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:17 pm Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 11:54 am Posts: 2 este mensaje va dedicado a algun usuario hispano que dudo lo halla el caso es que llevo probando real studio 1 año entre versiones de prueba ya que no voy a comprarla hasta ver que es realmente bueno y realmente potente ya que la web lo pone muy bonito y facil pero no lo es tanto mis dudas son 1 si dicen que realstudio es tan potente como c++ porque realstudio es de alto nivel y c++ de medio nivel? 2 porque no se pueden crear librerias desde el propio ide para aliviar el peso del programa? 3 porque no se puede eliminar las librerias de las otras 2 plataformas cuando solo se compila para una? ya que ese es el motivo de que pese tanto el ejecutable por incluir las librerias completas innecesariamente 4 porque no se pueden crear clases y plugins desde el propio entorno sin recurrir a c++ si resulta que realbasic es muy potente como dicen? 5 porque la interfaz de usuario parece como si fuera un programa de windows 3.1 o windows 95? 6 he usado un detector de compiladores y dice que los ejecutables estan compilados con minwin dev c++ 5 osea que es un compilador c++ y porque no dan toda su potencia? 7 la programacion que se usa con realsoftware es de un ingles de nivel basico osea string as dim todo eso son comandos que se sabn por saber un poco de ingles pero si la traduccion de la documentacion estuviese en español la aprendizaje del codigo seria mas sencilla Top elChupete Post subject: Re: dudasPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:46 pm Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:50 am Posts: 309 Location: Hamburg, Germany The majority of the users here do not speak spanish, so you would get more responses if you ask your questions in english. I tried google translator, but the result is terrible and I did not get any of what you where asking. _________________ Best regards Stefan Mac OSX 10.7.3 on a MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7/ RB Professional 2011 Release 3 Last edited by elChupete on Wed May 16, 2012 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total. Top DaveS Post subject: Re: dudasPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:25 pm Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:46 am Posts: 3693 Location: San Diego, CA yeah... it is a rough translation for sure Quote:This message is dedicated to some Hispanic users is the case I doubt it is true that I have been testing studio 1 year in trial versions as I will not buy until you see it's really good and really powerful as the web makes it very nice easy but not so my questions are 1 if realstudio say is as powerful as c + + because realstudio is upscale and c + + mid-level? 2 because libraries can not be created from within the IDE to ease the burden of the program? 3 because you can not remove the libraries of the other 2 platforms when only compiling for one? since that is the reason that although both the executable to include the entire library unnecessarily 4 because you can not create classes and plugins from within the environment without resorting to c + + if it turns out that REALbasic is very powerful as they say? 5 because the user interface looks like a windows program 3.1 or Windows 95? I used a detector 6 compiler and says that the executables are compiled with MinWin dev c + + 5 bone that is a compiler c + + and why not give all their power? 7, the programming that is used with realsoftware a basic level English bone string dim as all these are commands that sabn to know some English but the translation of the documentation was in the learning Spanish would be more straightforward code 1. Nobody has ever said the RealStudio is more powerful than C++, it IS easier to program in, and the result (if done properly) can be quite fast. 2. Code/Modules/Methods and Classses can be exported and imported to "simulate" the IMPORT type function seen in C and Java if that is what you are referring to. 3. Using compile directives you can skip code that is not relavant to a particular platform. My understanding is the LLVM compiler upgrade that is coming will produce even tighter code. 4. Not a correct statement. Plugins may require C++, but Classes are the under-pinnings of a OOP enviroment, and are supported directly by the Real Studio langage. 5. Your user interface should "look like" what ever operating system you are using... OSX, WinXP, Win7 etc. 6. was there a question here? 7. BASIC as the underlying syntax structure for Real Studio (as well as most non-symbolic programming languages) is based in the ENGLISH language..... That will never change.. Same applies to Pascal, Fortran, C ... all non-symbolic syntax are ENGLISH words... That is something you will have to learn to deal with if you wish to become a systems developer (regardless of what programming enviornment you end up using). _________________ Dave Sisemore MacPro, OSX 10.7.3 RB2011r3 Note : I am not interested in any solutions that involve custom Plug-ins of any kind Top pixe656 Post subject: Re: dudasPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 pm Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 11:02 am Posts: 337 Google translator is a great tool but sometimes it's not easy to get the real meaning from its translation: Quote:2 porque no se pueden crear librerias desde el propio ide para aliviar el peso del programa? My translation: Why isn't it possible to create dlls using the IDE to reduce the size of the executable? No sé la respuesta. I can't answer. Quote:6 he usado un detector de compiladores y dice que los ejecutables estan compilados con minwin dev c++ 5 osea que es un compilador c++ y porque no dan toda su potencia? My translation: I have used a compiler detector/checker on the executables and it says they have been compiled using winmin dev c++ 5. If it's a c++ compiler, why don't RS release all its power? No idea. Ni idea. (This one is very close ) Como ya han comentado otros miembros del foro, si escries en inglés recibirás más ayuda. Y si no puedes escribir en inglés y lo haces en castellano/español, intenta hacerlo lo más correcto posible para que los que utilicen un traductor automático consigan una mejor traducción. You will get more help if you write in English (free translation ). Pixe _________________ Using RS2011r4.3 on Windows7. Top fhuvu Post subject: dudasPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:35 pm Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 11:54 am Posts: 2 sorry for the bad English, maybe they can understand better now. 1 did not say that REALbasic is more powerful. I said that if the programs are compiled by MinWin dev c + + because it gives all the power of c + +. 2 user interface is very bad, I run windows 7 and it looks like windows 95. 3 if. the leguajes are in English. what I said is that it translates the language works. for example, you define a variable with the command dim. this is easier. My intention is also to create added to my already compiled application, or create an api to create extensions. 4 How I can create a functional external dll the program? 5 How I can remove what you do not want the framenwork? 6 How I can change the dll file that is attached to the program?, For example, internet encoding to change useragent? 7 How I can use po files to translate an application and do not use lingua? this is because I want to create a collaborative application Top Display posts from previous: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by AuthorPost timeSubject AscendingDescending Page 1 of 1 [ 5 posts ]
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