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Message        HMARROQUINC          Post subject: Not programing question. 
Opinion on a mac system requested.Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:35 pm              
                   
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Location: Guatemala, Central America                Sorry if this should be 
posted elsewhere but here it goes.

I'm new to the Mac world, I do have a Mac and have had one in one configuration 
or other for a few years but not until recently hace I had the need or desire 
to develop for OS X.

I was about to purchase a new Macbook Pro with all the bells and whistles for 
around $2,000 but today I was offered a bargain iMac 27" intel dual core 
3.3Ghz, 8GB RAM (which I would update to 16 immediately), Late 2009 model.

I like the size of the screen and all but would you Mac guys think this is an 
acceptable option for RS developing? Sure, the new system with an i7 processor 
is tempting but I'm being offered the used Mac for the equivalent of $500 which 
is more tempting.

You guys think that this is enough system to use for around a year or so? Not 
being cheap, just money conscious.      
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subject: Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: 
Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:24 pm                         
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Location: New Jersey                Currently, I have 5 mac's and one 10 inch 
lenovo laptop in my computer arsenal.

Development wise, I use:

- macbook pro 15 inch - i7 2 GHz, 4 GB mem, 225 GB SDD
- mac mini server - i7 2 GHz, 8 GB mem, 120 GB SSD, 500 7200 RPM (powers 2 Dell 
24 inch monitors)

on both mac's its not uncommon for me to run 1 or 2 Virtual Machines and a 
number of other applications including Real Studio.

I have found both systems meet all my needs and then some.

If you are looking for portable solution, then macbook pro 15 inch is the way 
to go. If you are looking for a desktop solution, a Mac Mini fully loaded with 
two displays.      
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                             Top                gisborne          Post subject: 
Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: Fri Feb 22, 
2013 9:27 pm                         
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Location: Austin, TX                That's a great deal. If you don't need to 
be moving about with it, get that.

Put 12 or 16GB of RAM in it, if it doesn't have that already.

Get a second monitor of some kind. At current prices, I think you'd be crazy 
not to get a 27", but get something.

FWIW, I alternate between a dual-screen 27" like that, and a maxed-out 11" 
Macbook Air. Both are terrific, in their own way.

Honestly, if you're considering a laptop, I say get the 11" Air. I've owned 
this, a 13" Air, and a Macbook. If you're getting a machine to be portable, get 
one that maximizes portability. When you want it, you can plug it into a large 
external monitor.      
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subject: Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: 
Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:34 pm                         
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Location: New Jersey                Here is a snapshot of my current setup:

      
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Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: Fri Feb 22, 
2013 9:56 pm                         
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Location: Austin, TX                Also, consider wall-mounting it.      
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                             Top                HMARROQUINC          Post 
subject: Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: 
Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:27 am                                 
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Location: Guatemala, Central America                Sky Stream wrote:Here is a 
snapshot of my current setup:



Nice setup! I'm impressed.      
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subject: Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: 
Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:39 am                                 
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Location: Guatemala, Central America                gisborne wrote:That's a 
great deal. If you don't need to be moving about with it, get that.

Put 12 or 16GB of RAM in it, if it doesn't have that already.

Get a second monitor of some kind. At current prices, I think you'd be crazy 
not to get a 27", but get something.

FWIW, I alternate between a dual-screen 27" like that, and a maxed-out 11" 
Macbook Air. Both are terrific, in their own way.

Honestly, if you're considering a laptop, I say get the 11" Air. I've owned 
this, a 13" Air, and a Macbook. If you're getting a machine to be portable, get 
one that maximizes portability. When you want it, you can plug it into a large 
external monitor.

I own a laptops in 10", 15"' and 18" from atom, i5 and i7 processors but those 
are windows systems. Also I have a couple of windows based desktops. However 
the only Mac that I currently own is defenitelly not suited for developing. 

I have considered the Mac Air in 11" but my aging eyes might suffer a bit. 

However the question remains: is the core duo iMac good enough?

As I mentioned, the price is very attractive. But I don't want to regret 
throwing $500 out the window if it's not a good choice.      
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                             Top                gisborne          Post subject: 
Re: Not programing question. Opinion on a mac system requestPosted: Sat Feb 23, 
2013 2:57 am                         
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Location: Austin, TX                I don't believe the content of the 11" 
screen is particularly small; there's just less of it.

If you get a good one, it's a perfectly adequate development machine. For me, I 
use it when I don't want to stand at my desk and use the big screen, but prefer 
to lounge. Or if I want to go somewhere. It's at the "going somewhere" that it 
is just brilliant. I sold a 13" Air to buy this one, and the contrast is 
amazing. As something you can just take anywhere, it's unparalleled.

The thing is fast enough for development. The only real issue to my mind is the 
storage. I paid for the 512GB version, but I paid dearly. 

 But other than that, a great arrangement would be a bluetooth keyboard and 
mouse and external 27" display that you dock with when you want to be at your 
desk, and then you can undock and be free.      
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