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Message        cbmeeks          Post subject: Please help me understand the 
pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:39 am                      
   
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Posts: 4                I am looking to create a couple of open source 
applications that I want to run on Mac and Windows (Linux too but that isn't my 
target).

Looked at Mono (being a C# developer), Java Swing, etc.  Found many solutions.  
None I liked.  Well, I love C# and .NET but I want my apps to run on the Mac.

I am also focused on desktop applications.  

Anyway, my first product will probably be open source.  It's a hobbyist project 
for a very small market.

OK, here is where I am confused.  I am currently using the trial edition.  I am 
able to build my app and run on both Mac and Windows (I develop on a Mac).  I 
assume this is not supported in the paid personal edition?

Plus, I just found there is going to be a pricing change where the IDE is free 
but I have to pay $300 to be able to deploy (distribute) my apps to all three 
platforms??

Why couldn't I just buy the $100 personal edition now and get the "free" 
upgrade to the $300 version when the 2013 edition comes out??

So, could someone help me understand what I need to do in order to:

1) Develop on a Mac.  

2) Distribute (either commercially or via open source sites like GitHub) my 
application so that it will run on Windows and Mac (Linux fine but not 
required).

Plus, 

3) What restrictions will I have before/after the 2013 release?

4) Do I have to pay an additional $300 in order to be able to connect to remote 
databases?

I am mostly concerned with graphical applications (using built in SQLite would 
be fine) but I could see me down the road developing apps that connect to 
remote databases.  

Thanks   
                             Top                DaveS          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue Mar 19, 
2013 10:52 am                                 
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Location: San Diego, CA                OK, here is where I am confused.  I am 
currently using the trial edition.  I am able to build my app and run on both 
Mac and Windows (I develop on a Mac).  I assume this is not supported in the 
paid personal edition?

Currently only if you buy a PERSONAL license for each Platform

Plus, I just found there is going to be a pricing change where the IDE is free 
but I have to pay $300 to be able to deploy (distribute) my apps to all three 
platforms??

Why couldn't I just buy the $100 personal edition now and get the "free" 
upgrade to the $300 version when the 2013 edition comes out??

YOU CAN!

So, could someone help me understand what I need to do in order to:

1) Develop on a Mac.  

2) Distribute (either commercially or via open source sites like GitHub) my 
application so that it will run on Windows and Mac (Linux fine but not 
required).

Source Code.... no problem. Compiled app depends on your license

Plus, 

3) What restrictions will I have before/after the 2013 release?

Minimum level after 2013 release will contain more than current PERSONAL 

4) Do I have to pay an additional $300 in order to be able to connect to remote 
databases?

Yes (assuming that is what the doc says.. I don't recall the price)... but 
SQLite is FREE (as it is not a remote database)      
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                             Top                cbmeeks          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue Mar 19, 
2013 11:03 am                         
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:11 am
Posts: 4                Thanks for the fast reply. 

So other than remote database support, what will I NOT be able to do if I 
purchase the personal edition now and get the free upgrade in the 2013 release?

Will the 2014 edition require a renewal license?  But I can use 2013 forever?

Thanks   
                             Top                DaveS          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue Mar 19, 
2013 11:17 am                                 
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Location: San Diego, CA                You should be good. Personally I have 
extended my OSX personal license into 2015
And yes... your 2013 (or any version you license) will work as long as it is 
compatible with the OS involved (who knows what OSX 14.9 might break)
but you will NOT get upgrades once you license expires (annual renewals are 50% 
of original price I believe)      
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any kind  
                             Top                cbmeeks          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue Mar 19, 
2013 2:06 pm                         
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:11 am
Posts: 4                You've talked me into it.  I will be purchasing the 
personal edition this evening.  

So, will there still be different editions post 2013 release?  Is there a 
breakdown comparing them?

Thanks!   
                             Top                HMARROQUINC          Post 
subject: Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Tue 
Mar 19, 2013 11:08 pm                                 
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Location: Guatemala, Central America                Dave should get a 5% 
comision on that sale!      
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                             Top                languer          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Wed Mar 20, 
2013 12:38 am                         
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Location: Arizona, USA                Agreed - that was right on.      
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                             Top                J.Hansen          Post subject: 
Re: Please help me understand the pricing and restrictions.Posted: Wed Mar 20, 
2013 1:36 am                         
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:20 am
Posts: 71                cbmeeks wrote:I am looking to create a couple of open 
source applications that I want to run on Mac and Windows (Linux too but that 
isn't my target).

Looked at Mono (being a C# developer), Java Swing, etc.  Found many solutions.  
None I liked.  Well, I love C# and .NET but I want my apps to run on the Mac.

I am also focused on desktop applications.  

Anyway, my first product will probably be open source.  It's a hobbyist project 
for a very small market.




Have you looked at python or 
for web applications: Grails (http://grails.org) ?   
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