Well said. Have a good day On 15 Nov 2004 at 13:14, Javier Valencia wrote:
> Victor: > This is a very enlightening discussion as many of us had gotten bit before > and realize the cost and effort required to get rid of a virus and though > this forum we can share the benefit of our (painful) experiences. It is no > longer a matter of whether you are going to get hit or not but when you are > going to have problems...as corny as it sounds, an ounce of prevention is > worth a pound of cure. IMHO, if this thread helps a single developer prevent > an infection or helps another in getting his computer back to normal, then > the bandwidth used is definitely worth it. > In my opinion, there is not one solution that works for everybody, but a > combination of options based on the work you do, how much you access the > internet, the volume and content of the e-mails you send/receive, the type > of Internet connection you have and last but not least the IP provider and > type of IP connection you use (dynamic or static). > The main thing is that you are aware of the limitation of the software you > use, Explorer for example has a number of setting that you can use to enable > and/or disable features; it is up to the individual user to determine what > level of security you are willing to tolerate and enable/disable features > accordingly and use complimentary software to compensate as needed. In > addition to the software I mentioned in my previous post, I also use > ZoneAlarm (free) for a firewall as well as a firewall build-in in my router > that closes the back door access (or so they claim) to the network from the > Internet. It is pathetic that we have to use all these precautions, but > under the current "state of the Internet," it is an absolute must. > Javier, > > Javier Valencia, PE > President > Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C. > 14315 S. Twilight Ln, Suite #14 > Olathe, Kansas 66062-4578 > Office (913)829-0888 > Fax (913)649-2904 > Cell (913)915-3137 > ================================================ > Attention: > The information contained in this message and or attachments is intended > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and > delete the material from all system and destroy all copies. > ====================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor Timmons > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:46 PM > To: RBG7-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Laptop woes > > Sounds like you have all your bases covered. But just remember that > because of the programs you run on your computer you are a much bigger > target than me. I not saying that what I suggest is a replacement for good > common sense, but you do because a much smaller target for bad things to > happen if you get off the beaten path when it come to internet software. > > Also check out www.firegate.net. They sell a firewall based on linux that > scans all incoming and outgoing traffic (Email,Web,Ftp) for viruses. The > nice thing the worm/virus never gets to the user. Works well. > > Ok time to get off my soapbox. Have a good day. > > On 15 Nov 2004 at 12:27, Javier Valencia wrote: > > > Although I am still using MS Explores, I have started exploring Firefox > and > > so far I like it, although I am still trying to figure out its > > features/quirks; I understand that Explorer is being completely > overhauled > > and the upgrade will be available in the near future....until then, I am > > keeping all option open. > > I am also using Outlook 2000 and I do not have any problems with it as I > > have McAfee that scans all incoming and outgoing mail and it has caught > a > > number of viruses and Trojan horses, so far no virus has gotten in > (keeping > > fingers crossed). McAfee check for upgrades constantly and sometimes, it > > updates 2 or 3 times in one day; it is not too bad on DSL, I am not sure > how > > it would work on a dial-up connection. > > Finally, I run Lavasoft "Ad-Ware" and Spybot "Search and destroy" (both > are > > free) periodically and my laptop seems to run fairly well. > > Javier, > > > > Javier Valencia, PE > > President > > Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C. > > 14315 S. Twilight Ln, Suite #14 > > Olathe, Kansas 66062-4578 > > Office (913)829-0888 > > Fax (913)649-2904 > > Cell (913)915-3137 > > ================================================ > > Attention: > > The information contained in this message and or attachments is intended > > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, > > this information by persons or entities other than the intended > recipient > > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender > and > > delete the material from all system and destroy all copies. > > ====================================================== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor > Timmons > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:14 PM > > To: RBG7-L Mailing List > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Laptop woes > > > > All the programs i talked about are free. That means really free no bad > > over head like spyware. Oh yea firefox = no popups :-) also. > > > > > > On 15 Nov 2004 at 18:46, Gunnar Ekblad wrote: > > > > > Victor > > > I like your advice > > > I will try the first to start, then maybe the second > > > But remember most people are lazy therefore we stick to Explorer and > > > outlook, but on this list are only clever people so we stick to R:Base > > > and good advise > > > > > > > > > Gunnar Ekblad > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor > > > Timmons > > > Sent: den 15 november 2004 17:07 > > > To: RBG7-L Mailing List > > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Laptop woes > > > > > > > > > 1. Get away from internet explorer that is your number 1 problem if > > > spyware is causing the problem. Try firefox you can down load it at > > > www.mozilla.org. Works great for this because i wont run activeX. No > > > activeX much much less spyware/Adware > > > > > > 2. get away from outlook. I use pagasus mail. You can get it at > > > www.pmail.com. mozilla has one called thunderbird that is good also. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents worth > > > > > > On 14 Nov 2004 at 12:10, Joe Sowers wrote: > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > Here is what you probably need to do: > > > > > > > > 1. Make sure you are using a firewall. I prefer Zone Alarm. You > can > > > > > > get > > > > the free version on DOWNLOAD.COM, but their security suite is well > > > worth > > > the > > > > price. At the very least, activate WINXP's firewall. If you do use > > > Zone > > > > Alarm, deactivate WINXP's. Don't use them both at the same time. > > > > > > > > 2. Download Spybot Search and Destroy from DOWNLOAD.COM and run it > > > > regularly. It is free and the best spyware remover available. The > > > > developer lives on donations if you like his product. > > > > > > > > 3. Down Adaware PE from DOWNLOAD.COM and run it regularly. It also > > > free. > > > > Between that and Spybot, there isn't very much that will get to you. > > > > > > > > 4. Go to www.grc.com click on ShieldsUp and run all their tests on > > > your > > > > computer. You will find out if you are really secure or not. Using > > > the > > > > above products, I always check out as invisible to intruders. > > > > > > > > 5. For viruses I use PC-CILLIN by Trend Micro www.trendmicro.com . > > > They > > > > were recently rated the best by ZD NET. They automatically make > > > updates > > > > available to you and it is not once a week or once in awhile. I > have > > > gotten > > > > as many as three in one day. They ask before downloading. > > > > > > > > If all else fails, send your laptop to me and buy another one. I > can > > > always > > > > use an extra one. > > > > > > > > Joe Sowers > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick > Fey > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 3:16 AM > > > > To: RBG7-L Mailing List > > > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Laptop woes > > > > > > > > I know this is off-topic... but... > > > > > > > > before I throw my laptop in the R:Dumpster, maybe one of you > computer > > > > genius's can give me a clue. > > > > > > > > I am running a Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop, with XP Pro, and 512 > memory. > > > > > > > > It has begun to 'choke' after a series of either keyboard or mouse > > > inputs. > > > > > > > > It just locks up for 15 to 20 seconds, and then usually comes right > > > back, > > > > and like picks up where it left off, including going right on with > the > > > > > > key > > > > strokes you had entered. Occasionally instead of coming back, the > > > mouse > > > > > > > totally disappears. Keystrokes work, but the mouse just takes a > work > > > break > > > > I guess. > > > > Only solution then is a reboot. > > > > > > > > I thought it was a memory problem & recently doubled it to 512, but > > > that > > > > > > > changed nothing. > > > > > > > > SO... its your chance to keep me from buying a new laptop. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Fey > > > > Carpet Broker Inc. > > > > Lenexa KS 66214 > > > > > > > > 800-228-4632 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor Timmons > > > Tiz's Door Sales, Inc > > > 425-258-2391 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor Timmons > > Tiz's Door Sales, Inc > > 425-258-2391 > > > > > > > > Victor Timmons > Tiz's Door Sales, Inc > 425-258-2391 > > Victor Timmons Tiz's Door Sales, Inc 425-258-2391
