Hi Sami

I did several times, still same problem with the errors and
N's set for select on the sys tables.

Is it OK that the select value is set to N for the sys tables?

Marc



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sami Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:05 AM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_layout3 problems again


> Marc -
>
> I would do an UNLOAD ALL and let R:BASE rebuild your database from scratch
> ...
>
> Sami
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:41 AM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_layout3 problems again
>
> Thanks Albert I didn't know that.
>
> If I try just granting select to Sys_layouts3 I get the
> same errors but if I do Grant Select...to public at the R> I
> do not get any errors.
>
> When I look at the rights for the sys tables for Public all of the
> Select values and all other values are set to N.
>
> Is that correct or should I set Select to Y for all sys tables?
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:47 PM
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_layout3 problems again
>
>
> > Marc, you can only grant SELECT to most of the sys tables. Most of them
> are actually views. You
> > can grant all privileges to the sys_form.. and sys_report.. and
> sys_label.. tables except modify.
> >
> >
> > --- Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Albert
> > >
> > > I tried that no errors.
> > >
> > > Then I
> > > Con to db entered owner password
> > > went to table privileges ... public... sys_layout3
> > > everything was N across the screen, even for all
> > > sys tables.
> > > I clicked Edit, checked all of the boxes for select,
> > > update... and all of the columns below, clicked OK
> > > Then I got 3 errors
> > > Error column sys_layout_name not in RBdefine
> > > Error column sys_data not in RBdefine
> > > I got this for each column in each sys table when I
> > > tried it on the other sys_tables.
> > >
> > > I thought build 78 was suppose to grant access to public
> > > on system tables?
> > >
> > > Maybe I need to delete the sys tables then do the upgrade again
> > > since this db was converted / upgraded before build 78?
> > >
> > > Is this normal or does this mean something is wrong?
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Albert Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:11 PM
> > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_layout3 problems again
> > >
> > >
> > > > A favoured technique when unusual problems arise is to do an
> unload/input
> > > for the database.
> > > >
> > > > CONNECT <database>
> > > > SET NULL -0-
> > > > OUTPUT <database.str>
> > > > UNLOAD STRUCTURE
> > > > OUTPUT SCREEN
> > > > OUTPUT <database.dat>
> > > > UNLOAD DATA
> > > > OUTPUT SCREEN
> > > >
> > > > Now edit the database.str file. Search for ALTER.
> > > > Add two lines here:
> > > > RETURN
> > > > LABEL Indices
> > > >
> > > > and save the file.
> > > >
> > > > SET MESSAGES ON
> > > > SET ERROR MESSAGES ON
> > > > OUTPUT RELOAD.LOG
> > > > RUN database.str
> > > >   This will create the structure without indexes and constraints
> > > > RUN database.dat
> > > >   This will load all the data back into the database
> > > > OUTPUT SCREEN
> > > > Again edit the database.str file
> > > > As the first line
> > > >
> > > > GOTO Indices
> > > >
> > > > Save the file
> > > >
> > > > OUTPUT RELOAD.LOG APPEND
> > > > RUN Database.str
> > > > OUTPUT SCREEN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This will add back the indices and constraints.
> > > > RBEDIT RELOAD.LOG
> > > > Search for the word "ERROR" to see what has gone wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought this problem was solved a few months ago but
> > > > > it is back.  I haven't used this db since then so I am not sure
> > > > > when it came back.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I con to the db then enter the owner password
> > > > > then do Edit all from table I get an error about
> > > > > a missing sys_layout3 table.  But it is there at the
> > > > > R> when you do list sys%.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I put in the owner password first then con to the
> > > > > db, then edit all from table NO error.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have looked for dup MSG and DLL files.
> > > > > Deleted the CFG file, upgraded the DB,
> > > > > reloaded.....
> > > > >
> > > > > This may not be a big deal since I can work around it
> > > > > but it makes me nervous that there may be something
> > > > > else wrong with my db and it will come back and
> > > > > cause problems one day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
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> > >
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> >
> >
> > =====
> > Albert Berry
> > Management Consultant
> > RR2 - 1252 Ponderosa Drive
> > Sparwood BC, V0B 2G2
> > Canada
> > (250) 425-5806
> > (250) 425-7259
> > (708) 575-3952 (fax)
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