Troy,

I agree with your suggestion.  But I've found user that play on their pc
using explorer and have deleted files that where Rbase related and some
that were not related to rbase.  I've also caught users that were web
browsing sites that they should not and so on!  I've caught user having
non-company communication via email.  Yes it is big brother but users
cause enough issues that sometimes you need to detect who and what are
causing these issues.

Best regards,

Oma Cox


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy
Sosamon
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:05 PM
To: RBG7-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_Rowver


Put a trigger on the table to log the username, date, and time for
inserts, updates, and deletes to the table.  You don't need special
monitoring software, R:base has everything you need.  You just have to
write a few lines of code.


Troy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oma Cox
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:43 AM
To: RBG7-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_Rowver

Marc,

I've used a software package to monitor and catch users that like to
wonder and do things.

The link is below!  Not too expensive if you compare your time charges
to the client for recovering from those strange events affecting their
Rbase application.

This package is completely invisible to virus and spyware!
  
I also use it to help clients that want to spy on their children and
spouses! LOL

http://www.spectorcne.com/


Best regards,

Oma Cox


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:25 AM
To: RBG7-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_Rowver


Bill

R:Base is great and as usual the problem is between the
chair and key board.

One office called and said "my program will not start"
Turns out they had somehow deleted 3 of the 4 RB
files.  This same office called a month earlier and somehow created a
sub folder and moved the 4 RB files into that sub folder.

Of course they don't know how this happened!

Marc



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Downall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_Rowver


> Marc,
>
> Ah. It's not a fear of R:Base doing something you don't like, it's a
> fear of people doing something you don't like! Sys_rowver does not 
> give you much of an reliable audit trail. Someone using a form could 
> easily save a row an extra time. Any update of any column in the table

> increments sys_rowver, too.
>
> I wrote one application a few years ago that did it's own audit trail:

> everytime a row was deleted from a sales details table, a trigger
> logged the delete in a totally separate table. Through that mechanism,

> the company figured out that one salesman had been repeatedly entering

> bogus orders to "hold" stock, then deleting them, freeing up the stock

> just before the time that employees were allowed to buy unsold
> merchandise at big discounts.
>
> Bill
>
> Marc wrote:
>
> >Hi Bill
> >
> >We same daily totals for charges, payments... in a Recap table. This
> >office called and said their monthly recap totals are off. I had them

> >send me their data and it appears someone has been changing their
> >data.  I am not sure if these changes are everyday housekeeping or if

> >someone is walking off with a few checks in their pocket.
> >
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bill Downall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:39 AM
> >Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Sys_Rowver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Okay. You made me ask:  why is that fearsome?
> >>
> >>Marc wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks Bill
> >>>
> >>>I was afraid of that.
> >>>
> >>>Marc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Marc,
> >>>>
> >>>>Exactly. When the row is inserted, the value is zero. Each time
> >>>>the
row
> >>>>is updated, the value is incremented by one.  It's the "version
number"
> >>>>of the row.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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