I let the system choose its own setting so I'll try fixing it. Thanks for
the guidelines.

And for your follow-up reply , Albert, with one report using only the
breakpoints and the other using an additional sort I assumed that that was
not the problem. That said, I think I am beginning to feel the same way - if
only so that no conflict can arise.

Regards,
Alastair.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Problem with reports (continued...)


> Alastair, thinking back to older days, I suggest you tell MS what to use
for virtual memory. I
> have done this, sometimes with spectacular results, sometimes with
spectacular failure. I do know
> that it invariably cuts down on some of the disk thrashing just before the
blue screen.
>
> In the virtual memory settings, the MIN and MAX values should be the same.
The OS doesn't have to
> continuously increase and decrease the size of the virtual memory block on
the drive. This also,
> depending on the operating system and disk condition, reduces the
fragmentation of the virtual
> memory block.
>
> The size of the virtual memory should not exceed 4x the physical RAM, nor
should it be less than
> 2x, for optimal results, if I remember correctly. This does not mean that
you can not use larger
> sizes, but we (a group of us old farts) have found that going past 4x
sometimes has the opposite
> effect of that desired.
>
> The key item seems to be that the virtual memory should be a fixed amount.
>
> --- Alastair Burr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Emmitt, David & Javier.
> >
> > Just to confirm that the database has just been reloaded after
installing the latest beta and
> > I'm sure that the sort matches the breaks on that report.
> >
> > I understand what you're saying about resources, Emmitt, but I would
expect the point at which
> > the report "stops" to vary with whatever else is running - not much,
usually - but, in both
> > cases, the reports stop at the same point each time.
> >
> > Also, both reports in their v6.5 format run against the same data quite
happily so it seems to
> > me to be something else. However, are there any changes that I can make
to, for example, the
> > amount of virtual memory, that might have any influence? Even a small
subsequent change in the
> > result would tend to confirm what you're suggesting.
> >
> > Is there anybody else out there who is still using W98SE and can confirm
one way or the other if
> > they have any problems with similarly large reports?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Regards,
> > Alastair.
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Emmitt Dove
> >   To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> >   Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:16 PM
> >   Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Problem with reports (continued...)
> >
> >
> >   Alastair,
> >
> >   I think the key here is your platform.  RBG7 likes to have adequate
resources, and for our
> > application I recommend a minimum of 512 mb on at least w2k if not XP.
W98 likely isn't up to
> > the task.  You are probably getting to the stage where W98 starts disk
thrashing - the
> > application program requires more memory, so it requests it from the OS.
The OS has to swap
> > some application memory out to disk in order to load the part of the OS
required to service the
> > request, and in the process takes memory away from the application that
was just requesting
> > additional (virtual) memory.
> >
> >   We had a reporting application running against a very large database
in R:Base for DOS some
> > years back on W98.  When we hit this barrier you could hit ctrl-esc and
it would take up to 45
> > minutes to get back to the desktop.  Under w2k it works just fine, thank
you.
> >
> >
> >   Alastair
> >
> >   I bet Emmitt is right - he usually is - but just in case, what you're
describing would also be
> > consistent with damaged indexes.
> >
> >   Backup the database
> >   Do a PACK KEYS on the database
> >
> >   See if that makes a difference
> >
> >   David Blocker
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >   Also, make sure that the ORDER BY clause in your statement does not
conflict with the breaks
> > in the report; I found that if you want to use and ORDER BY clause in
your statement, it must
> > include first the exact order of the breaks and then the additional
sort.
> >
> >   Javier
> >
>
>
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