Sami, Javier, Bernie,

The very first backup I did on January 12 doesn't have a corrupted
sys_layouts3 table.  I unloaded that data and reloaded it into my current
database.  Although RScope now reports no errors, I still have the Access
Violation problem.

Interestingly, Sami, I had already found this routine you posted some time
back and had copied it to a notepad file.  Unfortunately, I have made many
changes to the structure since that January 12 backup...  But maybe, I might
find a more recent backup that would work.  It'll take time since I do that
backup every day, sometimes several times a day.

I have to run a couple of errands right now but I'm getting back to it later
until I find the answer, by gosh by golly...  Luckily, it happened on a
weekend...

Thanks for all your help.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sami Aaron
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:43 PM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> corruption
> 
> Claudine -
> 
> There are a couple more options:
> 
> 1.  Find a backup copy of the rb1 file from before the corruption
> occurred.
> (NOTE: this will not work if you have made any structural changes to the
> database since the date/time on the rb1 file.)  Copy the rb1 file into
> your
> working folder, replacing the existing rb1 file.  Now, do a reload on the
> database and see if that helps.
> 
> 2.  Unload all for each of your database tables separately like:
>       SET NULL -0-
>       OUTPUT IHopeThisWorks.str
>       UNLOAD str
>       OUTPUT SCREEN
>       OUTPUT IHopeThisWorks.dta
>       UNLOAD DATA
>       OUTPUT SCREEN
> 
> Then, RBEDIT IHopeThisWorks.str and search for "CREATE VIEW".
> Split this file into two files - everything ABOVE the first CREATE VIEW
> statement into IHopeThisWorks1.str, and everything from the first CREATE
> VIEW to the end of the file as IHopeThisWorks2.str.
> 
> Then, RBEDIT IHopeThisWorks.dta and search for SYS_Layouts and delete the
> whole LOAD section for that table.
> 
> Then, get rid of the original database or rename it to something else.
> 
> SET MESS ON
> SET ERROR MESS ON
> TRACE IHopeThisWorks1.str
> --If no errors then
> RUN IHopeThisWorks.dta
> --If no errors then
> TRACE IHopeThisWorks2.str
> 
> If that still doesn't work, then I still have one more way up my sleeve so
> post another question here....
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> Sami
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claudine
> Robbins
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:15 PM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> corruption
> 
> Javier and Bernie,
> 
> I have now reloaded the last 4 complete backup files created with unload
> all
> and every single one reports the 'data' error in RScope for the
> sys_layouts3
> table.
> 
> I also tried deleting both records in sys_layouts3 and RScope reports no
> corruption.  However, Access Violation messages continue and db is
> unusable.
> 
> (how do you spell seperately?) separately.  And that's a good idea.  I'm
> going to do that now...
> 
> Claudine
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier
> > Valencia
> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:03 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> > corruption
> >
> > You could try doing a RELOAD or an UNLOAD of the structure and data and
> > then
> > reconstructing the database. TTBOMK the SYS_LAYOUTS3 table stores only
> the
> > layouts of tables of views and it is not critical, if the data is
> deleted
> > it
> > should just display the tables/views in the default format.
> > Javier,
> >
> > Javier Valencia, PE
> > President
> > Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claudine
> > Robbins
> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:36 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> > corruption
> >
> > Hi Javier,
> >
> > I'm working with a copy.  I've tried deleting both rows and even though
> > RScope no longer reports the problem, the Access Violation Messages
> > continue...
> >
> > Claudine
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier
> > > Valencia
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:33 PM
> > > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3
> table
> > > corruption
> > >
> > > Hi Claudine:
> > > Whatever you do...backup first!!!
> > > Then you can try deleting the offending items and see if that fixes
> the
> > > problem; if it does not, you still have the original...
> > > Javier,
> > >
> > > Javier Valencia, PE
> > > President
> > > Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C.
> > > 14315 S. Twilight Ln, Suite #14
> > > Olathe, Kansas 66062-4578
> > > Office (913)829-0888
> > > Fax (913)649-2904
> > > Cell (913)915-3137
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claudine
> > > Robbins
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:24 PM
> > > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> > > corruption
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We had a small surge at the office yesterday and one of my db's is now
> > > constantly giving off access violation messages which cannot be
> > resolved.
> > >
> > > Upon running RScope 7.5, I find that there is an error in my
> > sys_layouts3
> > > table which cannot automatically be fixed because it contains a note
> > > field.
> > > This table has two rows, one for an existing 'important' table, the
> > other
> > > for a view which I can easily delete and recreate.
> > >
> > > What should I do?
> > >
> > > Claudine

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