Albert
I have a minor request, cant you submit your excellent summary of the
benefits of YYYY/MM/dd to, what do I know, maybe AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD
INSTITUTION (ANSI) for an official approval of your suggestions? 

Gunnar Ekblad


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Subject: [RBG7-L] - Re: Date format

Close, but not quite. It is not a decade, but equally significant. At least
to me.

--- Dennis Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Thanks Albert,

Takes me back many years when all dates/times were converted to aperpetual
second clock which I
think started ticking at 1960/01/01 (?).(used for Airline, Rental Car, etc.)

Have you used the popup calendar for the YYYYMMDD format?

I'm guessing 2005/06/10 may be tied into an even number of decades
thatsomeone has been on the
planet. 
...


At 12:22 AM 5/12/2005, you wrote:
The problem we have in Canada isthat officially we should be using
DD/MM/YY(YY), but so many of
us work with companies with US roots and/or divisions, and end up usingdates
in MM/DD/YY(YY)
format. The logical, indisputable, you cannot possibly mix up the monthand
day is to use the
YY(YY)/MM/DD format. 

If you use all four digits of the year it becomes obvious what is
where.06/10/05 is ambiguous,
2005/06/10 is not. Users get used to it quite quickly. The users
thatappreciated it the most were
payroll people who had to enter time cards. With the US standard dateformat,
the DD is in the
middle, requiring multiple keystrokes or mouse clicks to change the dateup
one day. 

With the UK standard format the DD comes first so [Del][Del]11 willchange
the day from the 10th
to the 12th, and with the suggested format, the DD is last, making itquite
easy to change the
date from 2005/06/10 to 2005/06/11 using [End][BackSpace]1. 

2005/05/19 to 2005/05/20 needs two backspaces. The payroll users I dealtwith
preferred the day
last. Most of the current users prefer the calendar drop down if they
aremouse oriented, the
2005/06/10 format if keyboard oriented. 

There is a significance to the 2005/06/10 date that I leave to
theimagination of those who know
me for a (far too high) number of years. 

--- Dennis Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
---------------------------------
Albert,

I was surprised that the YYYY/MM/DD format is used by someCanadiancompanies
(in the same
province) and not others, and even in the samecompany some departments doit
differently. I guess
a four digit year isa must. Is the year first considered the"metric" format?

When I put the above in the date picker format I get a zero for
themonth(???)

Dennis
*****


At 04:14 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote:
Dennis, the date picker formatis a PROPERTY command

PROPERTY DatePickerID FORMAT 'FORMAT'

One format example given is 
'Today''s date:' MMM dd, yyyy
I suspect some work with the quotes would be advisable LOL.


--- Dennis Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (RB7- 7.1.81.30505)
> 
> I think I know the suggested fix for my problem, but...
> 
> If I have the date format as: MM/DD/YY
> all my dates work fine on my forms.
> 
> But, at a customer who has: YY/MM/DD
> I get "invalid date" for any date change.
> 
> Should I change all my forms to a four digit year (which doeswork)or is 
> this a boo boo?
> Also, the date/time picker doesn't have a YY/MM/DD orYYYY/MM/DDformat. 
> And (sorry) is there a property command to change the pickerformaton the
fly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dennis
> *****
> Dennis Fleming
> IISCO
>http://www.TheBestCMMS.com
> Phone: 570 775-7593
> Mobile: 570 351-5290
> 
> 

Albert Berry 
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