[RBG7-L] - RE: ZDNet Blogs: Gartner to DBAs, BI vendors: Time to reinvent yourselves

[Castanaro, Bob]

>>I can't wait for Hyper-Rbase<<

 

Oh no....don't go giving Razzak any more ideas.  It's hard enough to keep up with all the new stuff....

 

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No doubt this is pie in the sky!  Where is pricing information kept?  In the RF tag? What if you want to change prices on existing inventory? Do you have to take every can of soup and re-initialize the RF tag? (You thought old floppy drives were slow! Imagine having to move skids of product past a transmitter just to change a price)   What if you need to know what amount is work in process versus stocked ready to ship?  What about obsolete inventory?  What about returned inventory?  The list goes on and on about dynamic status of inventory alone much less history of sales, scrap, efficiencies, production rates, etc. etc.

 

No the database is around to stay.  At first it was scratches on stone, then animal skin, then parchment paper, then punch tape, then magnetic tape, then spinning magnetic disks, then optical disks and in the future molecule size recording devices.  However, one thing remains constant... the need to record and store for future reference.  And if you have a volume of data stored, you will need a database management tool to access it! 

 

I can't wait for Hyper-Rbase, running on quantum based processors that know the answer before you ask the question!  (Now THAT is a hypothetical possibility that truly confounds the mind)

 

-Bob

 

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This sounds like someone wrote a paper on it for his Master's thesis.  I am always amused in my own industry by the theorists who have never had to get down and dirty with the real number crunching or the gathering of abstract data.  They are making proclamations like this and don't really know where the data really comes from, nor what variables might skew the results.  The can of soup example was theoretical and a good example of something to THINK about, but that's about it.  How were they going to trend the sales data?  That data is picked up at the checkout and most of us now have "discount" cards to grocery chains to they can track out purchases and market products to us.  In the real world, inventory is 1-4% incorrect even in the best of hands.  We are nowhere near having to reinvent what we do.  I agree with gary.

Bob C

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An excerpt from a friend working at a global manufacturing company, after reading the subject article:

 

We use something called kanban for the replenishment of stock. This approach bypasses the normal MRP route and sounds similar to the soup can example. The need for historical data analysis will still give the DB method some rationality for hanging around but I can see us going to an unstructured format like XML to a much greater extent in the near future. We'll see.

 

 

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This completely leaves out the accounting process and sales numbers.  WM's approach is to use RFID to enhance their accuracy and reduce labor.  RFID will have its place in allowing data to be gathered, however, it will have to be gathered into something and reported.

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Well, I read it too....and there are glimmers that make sense on a theoretical level.  However, I think achieving that level of intuitive spontaneous information management will be limited as much by deficiencies in human beings as in hardware and software.  It sounds more like the Psychic Friends Hotline to me.   And how efficient is it to have to scan every item in the grocery store to know that someone bought a can of soup?  

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That was an interesting article, Joe.  Thanks for the direction.  I'm sort of glad I won't live to see what they are saying but there are definitely portions of it that make sense.  You could carry it farther by saying that computers would also not be needed in their scheme of things.  They don't look at small company or, in my case, personal databases that need organization.

 

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From: rbg7-l@rbase.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sowers
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I thought this might be of interest to the group.  According to these guys relational databases as we know them will soon be a thing of the past.  It appears that their vision is a little bit narrow.  Interesting read though.

Joe

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2049

 

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