on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their Atlantis
> to eliminate the "shimmies".
> 
> http://readytoride.biz/?p=333

These things always catch my interest.  One of my riding partners (JimG,
master of the useful hack) has been addressing shimmy issues on his non-Riv
frame. One similarity I notice right off that bat is that - if the saddle
height shown in the photo is correct - he seems to be running a fair amount
of seatpost.  

That is one variable which seems to crop up frequently among those who have
front-end speed-specific, load-induced wobbles: a goodly amount of post
showing.  It might just be the angle of the photo, but it seems that way on
a Brooks, which has a taller rails-to-top measurement than most commercial
saddles.

I'm with Gino and Jay on this one, David's use of the term "flawed" does
strike me as improper.  For his application and riding style, it may not be
appropriate, but I would not categorize the design as "flawed".

One Million Atlantis Owner's Can't Be Wrong...
(hmmm...maybe the next RBW t-shirt)

Grant has posted and stated his opinions concerning trail before:
http://tinyurl.com/5kerye

(If it's of interest, you can follow that thread by clicking on the title of
it.  I had made a comment in which there were links to similar info and
threads on the web and in other discussion groups.)

As he says (and has related in conversations I've had with him), that you
really can't change one variable in a vacum - you will affect other aspects
of the design. 

I take this to mean that you either re-rake the stock fork and change the HT
angle and axle-to-fork-crown distance, or you get a fork made to maintain
those things and end up with the front wheel in a very different place.

The first attempt - just bending the fork - gave him approximately 50 mm of
trail.  My understanding of the BQ tests (and JimG's experience) indicate
that this is sort of the "dead zone" of placement. Yet, David felt it was
getting "closer", which encouraged him to pursue getting a custom made.

I certainly don't think I would've just set off on a 105 mile ride with the
an untested setup, but that's just me. More than likely, his
century-plus-a-nickel ride is like my 25 miler...

It would be interesting to take the now low-trail forked Atlantis and set a
loaded saddlebag onto it, to see what that handling would be like. I'd make
the suggestion to him, but can't seem to dig out my wordpress login, if in
fact I ever had one. I think that would be an interesting experiment.

- Jim

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