We're not really in disagreement.  I agree that there are bargains to  
be had with used freewheels, and what I said about limited gearing  
choices is supported by the examples you cite.  Whether those  
limitations are significant or not is up to you.  As you say,  
less-than-optimum is often perfectly fine for certain kinds of riding,  
perhaps less so for other kinds.

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> On Dec 1, 2:53 pm, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Piling on here, for a moment:
>>
>> Even if you discount concerns regarding future availability of
>> freewheels, the current range of available gearing in 7 spd freewheels
>> is limited compared to the range available with cassettes.  My personal
>> favorites, the 13-30, 13-34 and the 14-32 have no freewheel
>> counterparts.  
>
> That partly depends on what numbers you like in between. Some
> freewheels won't give you certain combinations, it's true, but other
> less-than-optimum combinations are perfectly fine for city riding.
>
> My two "regular" bikes both use freewheel hubs. Okay, Phil Wood
> freewheel hubs. With hubs that durable, why not stick with freewheels?
> And if they still have life left in them, why not go with slightly
> used ones, especially if you run your bikes in friction?
>
> Here's a helpful tip: Used-but-decent freewheels are popping up all
> over ebay and craigslist and many can be had for less than ten bucks.
> Combined with a new KMC Z-50 chain and run in pure friction I've
> never, ever had a problem with them. No skipping, no chain-dropping,
> nothing'.
>
> Admittedly, I can usually find seemingly "dead' freewheels in the
> metal recycling that a co-worker put there because they were "rusty"
> or "too filthy to spend time cleaning" or whatever. In far too many
> cases, those  5- and 6-speed freewheels -- mostly older Suntour
> friction -- came back beautifully with some elbow grease and solvent
> on my part. They had lots of life left in them, and shouldn't have
> been tossed into the recycling bin just yet.
>
> The 5-speed 14-32 on my All-Rounder and the 6-speed 14-30 on my
> LongLow/city bike were both resurrected from our shop's metal
> recycling bin. I have a box of perhaps seven or eight more of these,
> all scavenged from various shops' recycling bins (I get around),
> scrubbed clean and re-lubed with my trusty freewheel lubing tool (I
> had fun explaining to a 24-year-old dealer rep the other day what the
> tool was and what it was for. He grew up riding full-suspension ATB's
> with cassettes. Last week it was a lesson on Helicomatic hubs; whoo-
> whee!). After cleaning and lubing, each freewheel is wrapped carefully
> and stored away. I expect I have enough to get me through the next
> seven to ten years at the rate I ride. Call me a cheapskate. It's
> okay. I probably am.
>
> (Meanwhile, I have asked my co-workers to please show me their "dead"
> freewheels before chucking them into the recycling. The last one I
> fished out was -- get this! -- a Shimano 600, 6-speed 14-32 with some
> rust on it. I scrubbed off most of the rust, cleaned out the gunk from
> the bearings, and re-lubed it. Clearly labelled "used: cleaned & re-
> lubed", it sold last week for 25 bucks to a collector. So there's
> still lots of love out there for freewheels. IMHO, IRD and SunRace are
> very smart to keep on making them.)
> >
>




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