Three of the four wire-bead ones I've bought (two in 700x28, one in
26x1.75) have blown off their rims. with the 700s, it happened on two
different rims, a Torelli Master and an Ambrosio Evolution. The 26"
one was on a Campy Thorr. No other model of tire, wire or folding, has
done that to me before or since, and that counts 4 years of
professional wrenching in the late '80s.

A 75% blow-off rate on that many tires, plus the numerous reports of
others in the Surly LHT group and RBT tells me that it's not bad luck
and it's not in my head.

I'm glad your luck has been better, but I'm not riding a wire-bead
Pasela ever again. Like I say, love the folders.

On Dec 3, 10:42 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Wire-bead Paselas are famous for blowing off the rim. Avoid them."
>
> We have sold and installed hundreds of wire-bead Paselas in the past 3
> years. This reputation for blowing off rims has not been validated by
> our customers or in my personal riding experience with them. I find
> them generally true to nominal dimensions, within a mm or so.
>
> On Dec 3, 10:20 pm, Hank Wirtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 2, 12:24 pm, 42MuskhamSt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I bought some a few months ago from Gnashbar.  Some 700 x 32 TG
> > > folding and a couple of wire bead 700 x 28 non-TG.  The wire bead
> > > tires were on special for something like 12.00 each, so I thought I'd
> > > give them a try.  They're nice tires and run well, but I had a
> > > puncture in the non-TG within 500 miles.  The TG tires have 1500miles
> > > on them with no flats (so far, touch wood etc. etc.).  I measured the
> > > 32's at an actual size of 30mm, with 100psi on a Velocity Razor.
>
> > > Actually, I had a problem with one of the 700 x 28 wire bead tires
> > > (wouldn't stay on the rim -
> > > (Campagnolo rims on that bike) and emailed Panaracer with my
> > > complaint.  They sent me two 700 x 32 TG folding tires as a goodwill
> > > gesture.  Gnashbar also sent me a new 700 x 28 as a replacement.
> > > Pretty amazing customer service all round.
>
> > Wire-bead Paselas are famous for blowing off the rim. Avoid them. Get
> > the folders. The folders are fantastic tires. The wire-bead ones are
> > not.
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