More great info.  Thanks, Ron.

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, RonLau <[email protected]> wrote:
From: RonLau <[email protected]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:11 PM

I travel with my s&s bike and so far I have no issue with the
airlines.  putting it apart is easy because you probably do it at home
but putting back together can be harder because you are in the hotel
room.

overall, if you do travel with you bike, these are my advices.

1. get a not so expensive frame, because it will get dings no matter
how hard you try.
2. if you can deal with a compact frame, much easier to pack.
3. make sure you get some crank with auto extractor, octalink is
pretty easy and the outboard bearing is very easy to take the non
drive side crank out.
4. do know you have to deflate the tires (700c for sure)
5. do bring just the tools you need.  the case itself is 16 pounds,
with a bike 50 pounds limit is easy to reach.
6. get a cheap seatpost
7. if you get a custom frame, have your name engrave on the bottom
bracket
8. take pictures of how you pack it, save it on your phone or print it
out, you will need it. when time comes.
9. fender is painful to put on and off.  get plastic one.
10. have some plastic gloves.  chain is messy
11. get threadless stem or shorter stem, a long stem is painful to
take out and pack.
12. learn to adjust RD and FD. sti,ergo,downtube,barend, you still
need to adjust them if needed.

Besides flying with my bike, an S&S or Breakaway bike is great to
transport a bike without a root rack, you can put one easier in any
small car trunk.
The S&S case is great just to travel with, tons of room for everything
besides moving a bike.  the case is expensive, you might as well use
it all the time.

Anyone in bay area are most welcome to come check out my s&s bike,  I
packed it many time and have all the tricks down.

ron

On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, "Doug Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Or just ship the bike out.  Heck, I took one apart & packed it in
Croatia
> when its owner had to leave the tour abruptly, without his bike.  I'd
do the
> assembly, given the chance & a couple of hours.  
>
> dougP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
>
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Thill -
Hiawatha
> Cyclery
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:48 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
>
> I fully intend to. Can't wait.
>
> On Jan 7, 10:43 pm, "David Estes"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > When you come out to Cali in March, you can put it to the test!!!!
>
> > We're waiting you know...  :-)
>
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
>
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It seems to be hit-or-miss. The S&S case supposedly meets
the
> > > dimensional criteria to be treated as an ordinary piece of
luggage.
> > > But some airlines apparently have an automatic surcharge on
bikes,
> > > regardless of size. A friend and I traveled with our coupled
bikes
> > > last February, no problem. The same friend traveled with his
coupled
> > > bike in September, and got charged after volunteering the
information
> > > that his suitcase contained a bike. He protested, and after some
> > > debate, the actual measurements of the case were obtained, which
put
> > > it in the no-charge, regular luggage category. If the same case
was
> > > stuffed with clothing, additional fees wouldn't have been an
issue.
>
> > > It's one thing to pay a known, expected fee, and another
thing to be
> > > surprised by a fee that is applied arbitrarily, especially after
> > > spending $750 for couplers to avoid that fee.
>
> > > I'll be damned if I'm going to let the airlines balance
their budgets
> > > on the backs of bicyclists. (intended in good humor)
>
> > > On Jan 7, 10:21 pm, Big Paulie <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > > > On Jan 7, 6:52 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
<[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >  I've heard that it may be getting harder to
escape the extra
> charges
> > > imposed by the airlines
> > > > > for a coupled bike.
>
> > > > Even nice airlines have to eat too, Jim...
>
> > > > :-)
>
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > David
> > Redlands, CA


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