Doug:

Richard Schwinn would argue (from his web site) that Waterford's "design 
philosophy" is a cycling "gestalt."  Whatever that means.

A custom Riv is made to measure for you (the important part) in term of 
dimensions and tubing selection with some fancier lugs and paint (The less 
important, but prettier part). If you happen to fit a Ram perfectly, it's 
pretty near the same riding experience as a custom that also fits you 
perfectly. That is, the design and feel is similarly informed.


Once you purchase a bike from anyone, including CX racer extraordinare Sachs, 
it IS your bike and changing the wheelset, the brakes, the forks, the saddle, 
handlebars, etc to have fun with it, or to make it supremely suited to how and 
where you ride is an entirely personal choice. The original question of "Is it 
still an RBW?" is still answered "Yes," in my book. YMMV.

best

bruce



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From: Doug Van Cleve <[email protected]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv  Bike?

IMHO Waterford doesn't really have a design philosophy so this isn't really a 
valid comparison.  Think more along the lines of a Richard Sachs bike.  If you 
took one of his typical red with white race bikes, had canti and rear rack 
bosses added, had it powder coated matte black then built it up as a commuter 
would it still be what RS meant it to be?

......snip......


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From: Larry Powers <[email protected]>


I have toyed with getting a new fork for the bike.  If I did would this still 
be a Riv Rambouillet? 


      
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