I have a 57 bleriot, use the nitto big rack in the rear, mark's rack
in the front with the little baggins loafer.  During the week, the
little baggins carries a jacket, some gloves, a couple straps, micro
pump, and maybe a hat, and I attach a pannier to commute to work (the
arkel one with the laptop bag).  It works great.  I just ck'd, it's
1500 cui:

http://www.arkel-od.com/panniers/commuter/overview.asp?fl=1&site=

(I also have a suit bag that straps on, but use it maybe once every
two weeks or less.)

Frankly, the aesthetic is a compromise, that black bag on the back
with the loafer, but not that much, and I like it's utility, and only
aspire to being prissy enough to complain.  I have no problem with the
thing quite heavy; the bike does fine (even with a slight six year old
thrown on top of the rack; it is solid).  A little slower, yes, but
that's the engine.

On weekends, I frequently zip-tie a basket on the back rack for quick
trips to the store or whatever, big trips a trailer, pannier stays at
home.

I was told by folks at Riv that the nitto top rack is not that
compatible w/ panniers, get the big.  Probably would do in a pinch,
but not regular use.

On Feb 12, 9:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:41 PM, avillage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, there. I'm getting ready to set up my Bleriot for commuting. I use
> > it that way now but I wear a day pack with all my stuff and I want to
> > get it off my back. I'm investigating racks, bags, baskets, trunks,
> > all trying to decide the best arrangement. My current thinking is a
> > large basket on a rack (Nitto) on the back which would allow me to
> > pack a cheap duffle bag, throw it in the basket and secure it with a
> > net. Easy to get stuff in and out plus I can haul some other stuff. My
> > past experience from 25 years ago commuting on a Trek 500 with a rack
> > was that the weight on the backend made it more difficult to handle
> > (it felt heavy in the rear). I need about 1,500 cubic inches of room.
> > Any experience, suggestions, downright advice out there? I'd enjoy
> > your ideas.
>
> My experience is just the opposite: with a Rivendell, as with many other
> bikes, weight in panniers affects handling least (I had a Fuji something or
> other that handled better with 30 lb of panniered groceries).
>
> I've long used saddlebags for heavier loads, but recently bought two Flys
> and an assortment of panniers of different sizes, that I can choose among
> for different loads. It's nice not having to carry around an empty Camper or
> Adam when all I need to carry is tools and tubes; OTOH, it's nice to have
> panniers that hold my laptop without it bumping my thighs and swaying.
>
> I routinely carry 40 lb of groceries on my 1973 Motobecane Grand Record with
> skinny, thin  and flexy 531 tubing, with the stout rack. It handles fine. I
> can carry as much on my Riv commuter, except that I prefer to carry less for
> the sake of the skinny rear tire (tho' the 559 Turbo was sold to tandem
> teams, I was told by the owner of Tandems East). (I weigh 170.)
>
> A big basket on a rack will also be harder to swing your leg over; even with
> fat panniers I swing my leg over the bar, but I like low bars. I'm getting
> (God willing) a mixty to use as a grocery bike to solve that problem.
>
> FWIW, the Adam weighed circa 2.5 lb, the Fly weighs a claimed (I've not
> weighed it) 12 oz, and my smallest pannier weighs 1 lb.
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