Wow...I can just feel the endo. Ouch, oh... I've ridden Mavic Reflex and Open Pros for years before going with a Riv and Rich built wheels. Despite the annoying "tic" sound that can occur at times due to the joining piece at the seam, the wheels performed flawlessly. Alloy all the way.
I didn't entirely trust Mavic's response because, in any event, why would the spokes break and wheel just disintegrate? Maybe I just don't get the physics of the situation and it seems like, regardless, the wheel is dangerous. If a tire flats in race conditions (or any conditions), if the rider lost control, the wheel should, I think, stay intact. Endos might happen and the wheel, though maybe damaged, should be intact. The point, I think, is that carbon fails catastrophically. On my first test ride on my Bleriot last fall (I had just sold a Serotta Colorado Concept from about 1987 or so, maybe an original), I hit something with great force with the front wheel. To this day I don't know what it was. Going over the bars, I slid down the street, fearing for me and the brand new bike. I recovered, the bike was unharmed except for stuff I could easily replace, and, amazingly, the Rich built wheel was not only intact but also rideable. I ride it to this day. It has a very slight dent that doesn't affect ride-ability. I emailed Rich to thank him. What would have happened with carbon...who knows. On Jun 17, 6:06 pm, Chicken Sandwich <[email protected]> wrote: > There are other carbon-fiber spoked wheels out there that have been > performing well for years. This particular Mavic rim is just a bad design > and prone to failures. But then again, so are the Ksyriums for that matter, > which are metal rims with metal spokes. I've seen enough of them taco'ed to > stay away. > > I don't see people going around blowing up Zipp wheels on a regular basis, > or Hed or Spinnergy either. > > I will admit that, I am not a fan of Mavic rims at all, no matter what > materials they are made of. They have given me lots of problems. > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM, David Faller <[email protected]> wrote: > > Although nothing conclusive has been determined regarding the actual > > cause of this structural failure (spokes vs. rim vs. tire vs. frame > > material), when I get a flat tire on my metal wheels, they don't blow apart > > like a Christmas cracker. The culprit here, fundamentally, is carbon and > > using it where it probably doesn't yet belong. We all realize the pressure > > the industry has to race to the Next Big Thing, but riders (racers, in > > particular) are being used as Guinea pigs. Advanced engineering requires > > advanced, and extensive, testing. I trust Mavic to make metal rims. But > > that's all. Until they quit treating their customers like crash test > > dummies, I'll stick with their "old school" metal products which, thus far, > > have been reputable. > > > Stick with what you know. > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Will <[email protected]> > > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:22 PM > > *Subject:* [RBW] Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik > > > Hi. After reading the following VeloNews article, I suddenly feel > > thankful for Grant/RBW’s wheel-building philosophies and my Rich > > Lesnik-built wheelset.www.velonews.com/article/93054> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
