I'm curious: why do you avoid animal products for these things? I understand
a vegan diet for health or ascetical reasons, but obviously those don't
apply to leather saddles and saddlebag trim.
And what are your alternatives for saddles, beside petrochemicals?

I'm not trying to be annoying, but I am puzzled.

I'm also puzzled by what you mean by "de-normalizing bicycle design
and gender" -- I suppose that, by "gender", you mean "sex" (man -- in
this more limited and
non-specific meaning -- is a sex, not a gender, which is a grammatical term,
all question begging about usage aside). So, what exactly do you mean by
"de-normalizing bicycle design and sex"? (I expect you don't mean that one's
testicles are safer without a top tube.)

Patrick "slinging no mud, at all, at all" Moore

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM, JL <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Living a vegan lifestyle and being a cyclist are two things that I
> have done for quite a while now.  However, these two aspects of my
> life are just small pieces of who I am as a person in the world.
> Making consumer choices that don't include (oh the horror -hahaha)
> leather and wool often limits my bicycle component choices -especially
> within the Riv world. I make my own when I can. I was really happy to
> see Riv come up with a few leather-free bags.  While the bags
> themselves are handy, one can be assured that labor conditions and
> quality are top concerns when buying something from this company.
> Furthermore I see it as an attempt to de-normalize bicycle components,
> much like their stance on the mixtie for men works to de-normalize
> bicycle design and gender.  There are tons of non-leather etc products
> in the bike world, but it is difficult to find high quality, ethically
> produced and attractive goods. I have had some rather unpleasant
> experiences with bicycle component/accessory companies when I inquired
> about animal product free options. Thanks Rivendell for taking a
> step.
>
> ps: This is not meant as an add for a particular lifestyle, just an
> attempt to give my perspective on an aspect of the Rivendell company.
> It is often difficult to discuss things that venture into a semi-
> political realm I hope we can all avoid mudslinging.
>
> Second ps - There are high quality leather-like textiles being
> produced in different parts of the world now.  The thing I would put
> on the top of my non-leather wish list is a well made, good looking,
> hammock (brooks etc) style saddle.
> >
>


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Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
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