On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:37 AM, Johnny Alien wrote:

> On Aug 10, 10:57 pm, broken_cynic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> If you were contemplating the purchase of either a Sam Hillborne, a
>> Bombadil or an Atlantis as an all-rounder which was to be used mainly
>> for commuting and the occasional weekend trail ride to start with,
>> then proceeding to s24o type outings, shorter and eventually longer
>> unsupported touring to include some off-road elements, which would  
>> you
>> lean toward and why?  At 6'1 and just shy of 200lbs I'd need one of
>> the stouter frames if it is to carry myself and a load of gear over
>> rough ground.  I know the "right" answer is to ride all three and go
>> with whichever feels best, but it will a few months at best before I
>> have that opportunity and the question is burning a hole in my mind
>> right now, so I'm enlisting your opinions as a sort of vicarious
>> contemplation.
>
> You actually can get the info you need right on Rivendell.  For your
> weight the Hilborne is pretty much out.  Rivendell lists the the
> weight limit on the SH as 240lbs combined for passenger and load.

Not if he keeps his total weight below 240,.  Less than 40 lbs of  
gear for an S24O is easy and for a long unsupported tour can be  
done.  The 2 wheeled Winnebago mentality makes bike touring much less  
pleasant than it ought to be.

And, I suspect that Rivendell's weight limits are very conservative.

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